• @[email protected]
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          299 months ago

          When you’re an enterprise client paying serious money for the service, there are often data protection requirements. They have the capability to support things like export controlled information or HIPAA compliance in office, and appropriate legal agreements ensuring data protection. It’s the power of collective bargaining (they are buying 100s++ licenses instead of just one).

          • @[email protected]
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            109 months ago

            Exactly. If it’s a regulated industry, they’re not just paying for Teams. They’re paying for someone else to worry about meeting certain compliance requirements and take the heat if things go wrong. I’m not sure how many companies besides Microsoft can offer that. At most it’s a fraction of the available options.

          • @person420
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            29 months ago

            It’s probably more than 100s. One of my Slack orgs has over 300 paid users and Slack barely considers us midsize.

            • Flying Squid
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              Facebook is usually not used by businesses which expect it to be in compliance with compex healthcare regulations, the law is spelled HIPAA, and that article is about the UK, which doesn’t have that law.

        • @[email protected]
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          149 months ago

          You’ve clearly not worked in enterprise recently. Everything is about the Cloud, AI, and reducing Opex spending currently.

        • chameleon
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          They already did before this. MS-hosted Office 365 is running the vast majority of worldwide corporate email and hosts a significant amount of corporate files on business OneDrive/SharePoint. I’ll never understand why companies bought into ‘the cloud’ so easily.

          • Alto
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            79 months ago

            For most these things, it is far cheaper to simply use some sort of SaaS than to actually set things up in house. There’s probably plenty of times where it’d in theory be cheaper in the long term, but most businesses are going to see the short term savings as extra capital to try to expand.

          • @[email protected]
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            69 months ago

            In my size of company, it’s simple. I simply don’t want the overhead of running an email system. It’s not just running a server, it’s running a server farm for HA, dealing with domain blacklisting, retention systems, storage and firewalling to name a few.

    • @[email protected]
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      339 months ago

      It already has happened. All companies I work with use teams now. Despite better solutions. Teams sucks, but I came for free… It worked…

    • Ghostalmedia
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      179 months ago

      I wish. My company and my wife’s company use teams, and we fucking hate it.

        • Ghostalmedia
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          159 months ago

          It’s buggy, the call quality is shit, and it lacks some major Slack and Zoom features.

          Specifically, channels, organizing / grouping chats, threads, etc. Not having that hurts.

          That said, it does archive video chats in a thread that people can comment on. That’s cool. But that’s the only cool thing Teams does.

          • @[email protected]
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            79 months ago

            Fuck slack though.

            I hated the channel organisation, I would always click off a channel where I needed to respond to try and find other information, and then I’d never be able to find the channel I was responding to. Chronological sorting channels at least means I have a chance of finding where I was.

            Also fuck their terrible reply options. I generally just wanted to acknowledge that I was responding to a message, I didn’t want to spin up some weird thread.

            Basically, I hate everything, and don’t want to talk to anyone.

            • Ghostalmedia
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              69 months ago

              Complaining about Slack is like complaining about Jira. Jira sucks, and I hate it, but every time I get forced to try the alternatives, I’m even grumpier.

          • TJA!
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            29 months ago

            It is, in my experience, one of the better video call solutions out there. What do you think works better for calls?

            • Ghostalmedia
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              19 months ago

              Zoom. The video, audio, and stability are all much much better than Teams.

              • TJA!
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                29 months ago

                I did not have that experience. Additionally, the ux is so much worse

                • Ghostalmedia
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                  19 months ago

                  I do a lot of interviewing and often encounter moments where we jump from Team to Zoom, or vice versa, and everyone gets a side by side of call quality. This usually happens when a candidate hasn’t used one of the products before and they are struggling to enable screen sharing permissions, so instead of wasting time, I jump us to the other product.

                  Everyone always makes an unprompted comment about how much worse Team’s quality is. It’s really noticeable when you put them side by side. Feels like placing an old CRT TV next to an OLED.

      • @[email protected]
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        69 months ago

        Yeah, everyone always seems to bash Teams, but I haven’t worked with anything that is as good out of the box as teams. I’m no M$oft fan, but besides the first year or two of rollout it’s been just as good if not better than Slack. And that’s not even mentioning the fact that Salesforce (a potentially worse company) owns Slack.

        • @[email protected]
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          59 months ago

          I don’t believe that there are solutions that are as complete as team, for video and voice calls it’s among the best.

          But it’s so bad for text ! Why do I have to wait for a second when I change channels ? Why does it not support markdown (the partial implementation that it has is arguably worse than no implementation at all) ? Why is the search so bad ?