Really feels like Israel is trying to do the old Russian misinformation game even on Lemmy these days to try and suppress blue votes on a single wedge issue because they know it’s the only way to get Trump elected and get more guns and bombs than they’re already getting, and they wouldn’t get pushback at all for Rafah or any warnings of any sort, just a blank check for wanton genocide.
Like I don’t like what’s happening in Palestine, but I don’t want to make it worse by pretending a non vote would somehow help them. Helping them would be ensuring that the party least likely to enable Israel the most is elected. That’s Joe Biden. Some people have ridiculous nicknames for him but my god wait until they make this look like restraint if Trump gets elected. Palestine would cease to exist almost immediately and Israel will de facto annex it, like Russia is trying to do in Ukraine.
So really you can vote to minimize the pain and suffering of Palestinians or you can not vote to minimize the pain and suffering of Palestinians. Personally I’m gonna vote to minimize the pain and suffering of Palestinians, and also support the environment (again not to the degree I desire), and support abortion access, and trans rights, and taxes for the wealthiest Americans, and, the list goes on, but yeah, I’m gonna vote for Joe Biden.
I swear to god, the orange parasite could shit in their living room carpet, and so many idiots would still declare through lazy, stupid inaction that bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe.
What you say is a reasoned, nuanced argument. Too many people are beyond the reach of reason and nuance.
It’s likely to be a dual effort with Russian psyops. There was a hugely noticeable absence of the kind of bad faith conservative in sheep’s clothing arguments in the weeks after the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Seems like their psyops were knocked offline by the abruptness of the war, and they had to get back up and running and aligned on narrative.
While there is a significant difference for Palestine between blue and red, there’s a massive difference for Ukraine support.
I think it’s more likely that the majority of our “both sides” and “genocide joe” assholes are the product of Russian psyops. Maybe not the agents directly, but those that drink the coolaid.
I think it’s more likely that the majority of our “both sides” and “genocide joe” assholes are the product of Russian psyops. Maybe not the agents directly, but those that drink the coolaid.
Useful idiots by the dozen, parroting the lines of a theocratic genocidaire state and an imperialist oligarchy.
You know what? I’m starting to think that “psyop campaigns” are the Boogeyman of the Democrats the same way that Trans and Drag queens are used by the Republicans.
An easy scapegoat to wave away complaints about other issues.
Cause now Israel is on here complaining about the lack of change? I get they are absolutely running a disinformation campaign about themselves and the war but you think they are complaining about Biden?
I don’t disbelieve that it’s happening. There is always someone doing exactly what you would hope no human would ever do, but when it’s every single complaint that can be turned into a simple scare crow of a villain then it feels disingenuous
Really feels like Israel is trying to do the old Russian misinformation game even on Lemmy these days to try and suppress blue votes on a single wedge issue because they know it’s the only way to get Trump elected and get more guns and bombs than they’re already getting, and they wouldn’t get pushback at all for Rafah or any warnings of any sort, just a blank check for wanton genocide.
Like I don’t like what’s happening in Palestine, but I don’t want to make it worse by pretending a non vote would somehow help them. Helping them would be ensuring that the party least likely to enable Israel the most is elected. That’s Joe Biden. Some people have ridiculous nicknames for him but my god wait until they make this look like restraint if Trump gets elected. Palestine would cease to exist almost immediately and Israel will de facto annex it, like Russia is trying to do in Ukraine.
So really you can vote to minimize the pain and suffering of Palestinians or you can not vote to minimize the pain and suffering of Palestinians. Personally I’m gonna vote to minimize the pain and suffering of Palestinians, and also support the environment (again not to the degree I desire), and support abortion access, and trans rights, and taxes for the wealthiest Americans, and, the list goes on, but yeah, I’m gonna vote for Joe Biden.
I swear to god, the orange parasite could shit in their living room carpet, and so many idiots would still declare through lazy, stupid inaction that bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe.
What you say is a reasoned, nuanced argument. Too many people are beyond the reach of reason and nuance.
Yeah people forget that Israel is very advanced in intelligence and cyber warfare. And Russia already showed them how easy it is to manipulate us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_8200
It’s likely to be a dual effort with Russian psyops. There was a hugely noticeable absence of the kind of bad faith conservative in sheep’s clothing arguments in the weeks after the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Seems like their psyops were knocked offline by the abruptness of the war, and they had to get back up and running and aligned on narrative.
While there is a significant difference for Palestine between blue and red, there’s a massive difference for Ukraine support.
I think it’s more likely that the majority of our “both sides” and “genocide joe” assholes are the product of Russian psyops. Maybe not the agents directly, but those that drink the coolaid.
Useful idiots by the dozen, parroting the lines of a theocratic genocidaire state and an imperialist oligarchy.
You know what? I’m starting to think that “psyop campaigns” are the Boogeyman of the Democrats the same way that Trans and Drag queens are used by the Republicans.
An easy scapegoat to wave away complaints about other issues.
Cause now Israel is on here complaining about the lack of change? I get they are absolutely running a disinformation campaign about themselves and the war but you think they are complaining about Biden?
I don’t disbelieve that it’s happening. There is always someone doing exactly what you would hope no human would ever do, but when it’s every single complaint that can be turned into a simple scare crow of a villain then it feels disingenuous