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    6 months ago

    The law is meant to be used against serious organized crime groups like the Mafia. It requires fairly serious crimes being planned and commited by the group to be used, which carry at least two years of prison for them. The problem with it, is that is that ‘forming a criminal organisation’ means 5 years of prision for any member and 3 years for a supporter.

    This could mean that the German government locks up basically the entire German climate movement.

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          16 months ago

          It is in the fucking StGB. Neither you nor me define what a serious crime is, the law does. Do I agree? No. But it is still the law.

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              16 months ago

              I am not talking about a road. Interrupting air traffic is a crime with up to 10 years of prison. There is a difference between people in cars and people’s in flying cans that at some point run out of fuel. At least this is the reasoning behind this. Not saying that was the case for this incident. Just why this law exists.

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                  Says the one writing on a device some text, and sending it to a server. And both pieces of hardware are send around the world multiple times. Their raw resources, assembled parts and the whole systems.

                  But: we need alternatives to fossils fuel for planes. And, of course, short range flights or flying to Mallorcavjust to drink,puke and piss, should be forbidden.

                  We can’t remove planes without removing a huge part of the stuff that we are dependent on every single day.

                  To find compromises, we have to start at the extremes. But there is no seek for compromise. And after all, we are to late for compromises.

                  And btw, if you read my comments, I also don’t assume that anybody was in danger. But imagine someone disturbs air traffic vor 4-8 hours? I just explained why there is a law against such things.

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        76 months ago

        This is a legal term and civil disobedience has never been punished like this by German authorities. It was mainly a fine and maybe a few days in prison and not years.

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      16 months ago

      We are talking about:

      • Disruption of public services (5 years in prison)
      • dangerous interference with air traffic (up to 10 years in prison)

      Only for the airport actions. The law is targeted at every organization where the primary goal is to commit crimes. We can argue about that part, but that does not mean that this was an expected step by the prosecution. (The government is not involved in criminal prosecution btw …)

      Just to be clear, I am not defending the prosecutors here. Or the last generation.