Can we please stop with the concern about nominating a woman to cater to sexists who are already largely under the Trump banner? This incessant comment gives me MLK Birmingham letter vibes where the biggest obstructionists are those claiming to protect blacks but still too scared to stand up for what they believe in.
I don’t know how old you are but people said the same shit about getting a black man in the office, too.
I think a woman or even double woman ticket would be perfect considering the context of Roe reversal, and the fact that Democrats do not win without the women’s vote. And considering there are millions more women than men, it’s a bad gamble.
Despite being kind of unlikable, Hillary still won 3 million more votes than Trump. Right now Michelle Obama put-polls everyone and is 10 points ahead of Trump. So enough with this please.
I appreciate the well-reasoned response, thanks. We are both clearly on the same team and fighting the same fight. Such discussion are important and what separates us from the maga cult. In that respect, apologies for coming in hot on that last comment.
Ultimately I think you’re right in the sense that we both need evidence that neither of us have, and I’m not entirely sure whose burden that honestly falls upon.
I’ll have to weigh the notion that women will turn out for whoever is on the ballot given the stakes. Unfortunately I think we’d be surprised how many women fall in line with their husband, especially in conservative christian patriarchal households. I kind of wonder how many of those women might buck the norm simply because it would be a historical novelty to vote for a woman, even if they themselves are milquetoast conservative. Again, I have no idea. I wish I was a pollster.
This is pure anecdote so take with a massive grain of salt, but my uncle who lives in a battleground state and has the voting record of Obama->Trump->Biden->Undecided/leaning-not-voting has said to my dad that he likes Harris better than Biden. We were both honestly shocked by that. I don’t know if that would pan out in the long-run but it’s interesting. Ultimately more than anything I believe a younger candidate will be more impactful to turning out undecided low-info voters than anything based on the focus groups and polls I’ve seen thus far.
I think in the way the GOP doubled-down on appealing to the middle-aged white man with the JD Vance pick, the Democrats could make this about women’s rights front-and-center. I say be bold; I say go for a 2-female ticket. Make it about women’s rights. Make it about grab em by the pussy. Make Roe’s reversal front-and-center. Project firm imagery of Lady Justice and Lady Liberty righting the wrongs in this nation. That’s just me, though.
Senator Mark Kelly
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I think Whitmer could do it, by bringing Midwestern code switching to get swing state independents and abortion rights voters looking for a champion.
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Can we please stop with the concern about nominating a woman to cater to sexists who are already largely under the Trump banner? This incessant comment gives me MLK Birmingham letter vibes where the biggest obstructionists are those claiming to protect blacks but still too scared to stand up for what they believe in.
I don’t know how old you are but people said the same shit about getting a black man in the office, too.
I think a woman or even double woman ticket would be perfect considering the context of Roe reversal, and the fact that Democrats do not win without the women’s vote. And considering there are millions more women than men, it’s a bad gamble.
Despite being kind of unlikable, Hillary still won 3 million more votes than Trump. Right now Michelle Obama put-polls everyone and is 10 points ahead of Trump. So enough with this please.
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I appreciate the well-reasoned response, thanks. We are both clearly on the same team and fighting the same fight. Such discussion are important and what separates us from the maga cult. In that respect, apologies for coming in hot on that last comment.
Ultimately I think you’re right in the sense that we both need evidence that neither of us have, and I’m not entirely sure whose burden that honestly falls upon.
I’ll have to weigh the notion that women will turn out for whoever is on the ballot given the stakes. Unfortunately I think we’d be surprised how many women fall in line with their husband, especially in conservative christian patriarchal households. I kind of wonder how many of those women might buck the norm simply because it would be a historical novelty to vote for a woman, even if they themselves are milquetoast conservative. Again, I have no idea. I wish I was a pollster.
This is pure anecdote so take with a massive grain of salt, but my uncle who lives in a battleground state and has the voting record of Obama->Trump->Biden->Undecided/leaning-not-voting has said to my dad that he likes Harris better than Biden. We were both honestly shocked by that. I don’t know if that would pan out in the long-run but it’s interesting. Ultimately more than anything I believe a younger candidate will be more impactful to turning out undecided low-info voters than anything based on the focus groups and polls I’ve seen thus far.
I think in the way the GOP doubled-down on appealing to the middle-aged white man with the JD Vance pick, the Democrats could make this about women’s rights front-and-center. I say be bold; I say go for a 2-female ticket. Make it about women’s rights. Make it about grab em by the pussy. Make Roe’s reversal front-and-center. Project firm imagery of Lady Justice and Lady Liberty righting the wrongs in this nation. That’s just me, though.
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If anyone can peel a few red state voters off of Trump, it would be Mark and/or Scott Kelly.