Even the most transgenic plant, grown in the techiest greenhouse ever cared for with the nastiest fertilizers and pesticides is organic in the most widespread and commonly used meaning of the word.
We can debate what it means effectively, but the term organic in the US means something. It’s a regulated term and you can’t just slap different stickers on something and call it organic. So much just straight up misinformation in this thread from people too jaded, or too lazy, to look it up.
Now I’m not saying that the regulated term “organic” doesn’t have some other weird side effects, or that people haven’t attempted to hoodwink the process, but the term itself carries the weight of regulation in the US. So it’s not some silly, “Hurrr derrr Organic means Organic” thing like people are making it out to be.
When not talking about US food it just means living matter. Basically anything you eat is organic by the traditional definition. The USDA organic definition is honestly a joke though. Most pesticide other than the new age shit is made out of plant directives. Doesn’t make it safe to consume. The range of shit they can use and do, while still calling things organic is pretty laughable. You just have to avoid a few products that are widely used today. Nitrogen fertilizer and shit like roundup.
Even the most transgenic plant, grown in the techiest greenhouse ever cared for with the nastiest fertilizers and pesticides is organic in the most widespread and commonly used meaning of the word.
The air quotes are well deserved.
Wait, what’s the most widespread and commonly used meaning of the word?
Organic is a term certified by the USDA.
Love a definition that uses its own word
It is a bit annoying, though “organically produced” is defined exhaustively on the website.
We can debate what it means effectively, but the term organic in the US means something. It’s a regulated term and you can’t just slap different stickers on something and call it organic. So much just straight up misinformation in this thread from people too jaded, or too lazy, to look it up.
https://www.usda.gov/topics/organic
https://www.ams.usda.gov/rules-regulations/organic
Now I’m not saying that the regulated term “organic” doesn’t have some other weird side effects, or that people haven’t attempted to hoodwink the process, but the term itself carries the weight of regulation in the US. So it’s not some silly, “Hurrr derrr Organic means Organic” thing like people are making it out to be.
I think what we know is that it’s a scam and we don’t care.
How is it a scam? There is a whole host of rules and regulations around using the term.
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-7/subtitle-B/chapter-I/subchapter-M/part-205/subpart-B/section-205.105
Means “contains carbon” in any context other than food
When not talking about US food it just means living matter. Basically anything you eat is organic by the traditional definition. The USDA organic definition is honestly a joke though. Most pesticide other than the new age shit is made out of plant directives. Doesn’t make it safe to consume. The range of shit they can use and do, while still calling things organic is pretty laughable. You just have to avoid a few products that are widely used today. Nitrogen fertilizer and shit like roundup.
Meaning one could hypothetically spray a tomato with dioxins up to 5% of its body weight and it would still qualify as organic.
And slip some cash over to the FDA when one of their interns asks too many questions.