this is why you pirate, so it’s still illegal for them to literally murder your wife.
satire is fucking dead. NEVER consume media legally. not if you have anyone you care about in your life. I wish this was a fucking joke,
like, when I read ‘farenheit 451’ and ‘free culture’ I thought I knew how fucking horrible and dystopian corporate control of culture could be. I had some pretty grim images in my mind, and got really into having my own copies of things outside the bounds of the various laws. then this shit happened.
Given our current economic system and supposing that you can’t change it for now, how would you support a living for media creators (movies, shows, games, art, music, whatever)?
Genuine question. I find myself on the fence about this. Currently, I consume media legally due to several reasons:
Supporting the creators and thereby incentivising them to produce more of stuff which I enjoyed.
I can afford it.
I would like to keep it legal.
Stuff like this (although not affected since I don’t live in a country with that shitty laws), but also the decline of quality products as a result of companies trying to maximize their profit margins by producing a lot of cheap trash, as well as the criminalization of consumers and the fact that the profits are not shared equally among the creators but rather a few get the most while the rest gets some pennies (an issue present in virtually every business), make me really favour the idea of getting a pirate hat.
However:
If everyone would do this, this would lead to the death of the media industry, since no one would be able to pay for the productions and everyone involved anymore.
How would get those productions then?
Really, I think the only way to change this is to impose much better laws on the one hand and switch to a different, better, economic system on the other hand. But I don’t see these things coming soon. Which leaves me with staying legal.
I would like to read your thoughts on that. (And those of everyone else who wants to chime in.)
The media industry, like several other industries in America, is never going to shed its yoke unless it is destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up. It’s the unfortunate truth. The destruction of the media giants would be very bad for individual creators in the short term and potentially the only way to actually regain control of their industry in the long term.
I say, let 'em burn. You can’t stop humans from making art, but we can stop working for Disney’s bottom line. But that’s easy for me to say as someone who doesn’t make their living from that.
so, media creators-the writers actors set designers camera people etc, they don’t get money for media. it’s just not a thing. the money you spend on a movie does not go to the people who made it. sometimes books. sometimes book money goes to the people who wrote them, but that’s still pretty rare. like, as long as the most recent contract negotiations with WGA and SAG went on for, their leadership accepted deals that absolutely fuck them.
so I dunno how to help them make a living. I guess the same way I would if I were paying disney; live in hollywood and tip 50%.
I can afford it
so you can afford to have disney fucking murder your loved ones? dude, that’s a level of non-material wealth that I literally cannot comprehend, im fucking jealous.
you don’t discipline power with laws. has never worked, will never work. you discipline power with pitchforks and torches and communism. you discipline power with a guillotine, or in a coal mine. nothing else has ever worked.
this is why you pirate, so it’s still illegal for them to literally murder your wife.
satire is fucking dead. NEVER consume media legally. not if you have anyone you care about in your life. I wish this was a fucking joke,
like, when I read ‘farenheit 451’ and ‘free culture’ I thought I knew how fucking horrible and dystopian corporate control of culture could be. I had some pretty grim images in my mind, and got really into having my own copies of things outside the bounds of the various laws. then this shit happened.
Given our current economic system and supposing that you can’t change it for now, how would you support a living for media creators (movies, shows, games, art, music, whatever)?
Genuine question. I find myself on the fence about this. Currently, I consume media legally due to several reasons:
Stuff like this (although not affected since I don’t live in a country with that shitty laws), but also the decline of quality products as a result of companies trying to maximize their profit margins by producing a lot of cheap trash, as well as the criminalization of consumers and the fact that the profits are not shared equally among the creators but rather a few get the most while the rest gets some pennies (an issue present in virtually every business), make me really favour the idea of getting a pirate hat.
However:
If everyone would do this, this would lead to the death of the media industry, since no one would be able to pay for the productions and everyone involved anymore.
How would get those productions then?
Really, I think the only way to change this is to impose much better laws on the one hand and switch to a different, better, economic system on the other hand. But I don’t see these things coming soon. Which leaves me with staying legal.
I would like to read your thoughts on that. (And those of everyone else who wants to chime in.)
The media industry, like several other industries in America, is never going to shed its yoke unless it is destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up. It’s the unfortunate truth. The destruction of the media giants would be very bad for individual creators in the short term and potentially the only way to actually regain control of their industry in the long term.
I say, let 'em burn. You can’t stop humans from making art, but we can stop working for Disney’s bottom line. But that’s easy for me to say as someone who doesn’t make their living from that.
so, media creators-the writers actors set designers camera people etc, they don’t get money for media. it’s just not a thing. the money you spend on a movie does not go to the people who made it. sometimes books. sometimes book money goes to the people who wrote them, but that’s still pretty rare. like, as long as the most recent contract negotiations with WGA and SAG went on for, their leadership accepted deals that absolutely fuck them.
so I dunno how to help them make a living. I guess the same way I would if I were paying disney; live in hollywood and tip 50%.
so you can afford to have disney fucking murder your loved ones? dude, that’s a level of non-material wealth that I literally cannot comprehend, im fucking jealous.
you don’t discipline power with laws. has never worked, will never work. you discipline power with pitchforks and torches and communism. you discipline power with a guillotine, or in a coal mine. nothing else has ever worked.
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