Organizers with the cheekily named “Equalititty” and GoTopless groups walked about with a simple proposition: In 2024, there isn’t a particularly good reason to bar women from taking their shirts off entirely in the summer heat wherever men are allowed to do the same.
We teach that for generations. Turns out the sexual urge can’t just be “taught” away, people will look regardless, even unconsciously.
This. Everyone is thirsty. Legalizing toplessness specifically does one thing: it says a woman’s breasts are not special. Not sexual. The same as a back, a leg, a hand. That will drastically effect sexual harassment cases and what defenses a woman has to someone being a scumbag. I can stare at a guy’s chest all meeting long and nothing will come of it. Flip that. “I’m just looking, it’s not illegal”. To me that seems so much worse. It doesn’t just affect women who want the freedom- it affects all women period.
I’m a guy, and women’s breasts will never not be sexual to me. They are the most arousing part of the female body to me. So the whole “they aren’t sexual” thing is never going to fly. I’m sure you could find women who admit to being sexually aroused by a man’s bare chest, so I don’t see what that has to do with anything anyway.
The simple fact is, women should be absolutely free to put their bare chest on public display as long as men are allowed to do so. I’ve been to a lot of places in the world where women going topless is legal, and have only ever seen publicly topless women in places where it is not. My experience tells me legalizing it isn’t going to cause hordes of loose women to roam the streets looking to corrupt little Johnny. But that’s what the prudes are worried about.
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is it a sexual urge (which is fine to have) or a thing that is seen as exclusively sexual (which is maybe problematic)?
I dont think anyone considers boobs as purely sexual. Due to their biological function they are also distinctly maternal, but within the context of sex i suppose they are considered erotic because full breasts biologically indicate good health, and the ability to successfully nurse children.
Same reason we find nice hips attractive although it serves no immediate purpose within the context of sex. But they are also called child bearing hips for that reason; we find them attractive because they indicate a mate able to successfully give birth.
I mean, the tits thing is a myth. I’ve seen women who were basically flat nurse children, and women with back problems on their chests have trouble. the actual amount of tissue required is very small, or something.
Of course big boobs aren’t necessary, nor are the hips. We do consider them attractive for that reason though. My point was that our sexual desires are something very primal and instinctual, and decidedly not something that can be “taught” to overcome.