Normally Im all ACAB fuck the system. But the evidence in the case and facts make this ruling just even if it seems unfair.
Her abuser was a piece of shit, no denying that. And while the world is probably a better place with him dead, the means by which it was accomplished was illegal.
If the court had done anything but find her guilty, it just sends a signal to any would be vigilantes that if justice system didn’t give you an outcome you wanted quickly as you wanted, then it’s okay to take justice into your own hands.
While I do hope she gets a pardon and those who didn’t take her pleas seriously when she tried to report him become subject to thorough investigation and permanently removed from the criminal justice system, we absolutely can not go back to frontier justice of people killing each other because the local sheriff and deputies didn’t want to or know how to deal with it.
Nice strawman. Surely race was the only differing factors in these two cases, and it had nothing to do with with the fact that Kizer traveled 40 miles to shoot her abuser after escaping him months ago (that his convinction failing is the real injustice here) and took a plea-deal to avoid a life sentence for premeditated murder, where as Hughes lived with her abuser, was beaten the night of killing, called the cops, watcher her abuser talk the cops down, beat her again, starved her, raped her, threatened her and her children and burned her school books before she killed him and took her children to the police station to turn herself in.
But yes please insist these two cases are like for like.
It’s like comparing apples to oranges, which is easy to do because both are round fruits and pretty comparable
Like you can’t understand what a reactive abuse case (which centers on what trauma does to the brain) has to do with a girl killing the man who trafficked her?
I can understand it but that’s not the real question is it? The question posed was why one person was treated differently by the courts than the other.
The answer was because one person attacked their active abuser in self defense while the other escaped,then months later, in an act of revenge, planned and executed their murder and arson.
Of course, another key difference is that she took a plea deal. Which means she never actually went to trial. Her legal team knew self defense was never gonna fly either.
Normally Im all ACAB fuck the system. But the evidence in the case and facts make this ruling just even if it seems unfair.
Her abuser was a piece of shit, no denying that. And while the world is probably a better place with him dead, the means by which it was accomplished was illegal.
If the court had done anything but find her guilty, it just sends a signal to any would be vigilantes that if justice system didn’t give you an outcome you wanted quickly as you wanted, then it’s okay to take justice into your own hands.
While I do hope she gets a pardon and those who didn’t take her pleas seriously when she tried to report him become subject to thorough investigation and permanently removed from the criminal justice system, we absolutely can not go back to frontier justice of people killing each other because the local sheriff and deputies didn’t want to or know how to deal with it.
We have similar cases where people were found not guilty.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francine_Hughes
Why was it okay then in that case but now for this black girl’s case, it will suddenly erode society if -checks notes- pedophiles die
Nice strawman. Surely race was the only differing factors in these two cases, and it had nothing to do with with the fact that Kizer traveled 40 miles to shoot her abuser after escaping him months ago (that his convinction failing is the real injustice here) and took a plea-deal to avoid a life sentence for premeditated murder, where as Hughes lived with her abuser, was beaten the night of killing, called the cops, watcher her abuser talk the cops down, beat her again, starved her, raped her, threatened her and her children and burned her school books before she killed him and took her children to the police station to turn herself in.
But yes please insist these two cases are like for like.
I didn’t say race was the only issue, but you’d have to be blindingly, overwhelmingly ignorant to think race doesn’t play a part in sentencing.
The cases are alike in that both women were put through horrific situations that caused them to react violently. I think that’s pretty similar.
Read your damn source. You posted it. It’s obvious they are completely different.
It’s like comparing apples to oranges, which is easy to do because both are round fruits and pretty comparable
Like you can’t understand what a reactive abuse case (which centers on what trauma does to the brain) has to do with a girl killing the man who trafficked her?
I can understand it but that’s not the real question is it? The question posed was why one person was treated differently by the courts than the other.
The answer was because one person attacked their active abuser in self defense while the other escaped,then months later, in an act of revenge, planned and executed their murder and arson.
Of course, another key difference is that she took a plea deal. Which means she never actually went to trial. Her legal team knew self defense was never gonna fly either.
Kizer wasn’t “found” guilty. She entered a “guilty” plea back in May.
Hughes entered a “not guilty” plea, and took her case to trial. A jury agreed with her plight and acquitted her.
Kizer might have been similarly exonerated by another jury, but she did not avail herself of her right to a trial by a jury of her peers.
Yes, I’m aware of that.