It sounds way less offensive to those who decry the original terminology’s problematic roots but still keeps its meaning intact.

    • @[email protected]
      1•4 months ago

      Did they ever mention the history of the CS field generally being sexist towards women? Yes, of course. WTH? Why would you ever think someone passionate about this would not bring that up?

      I would also argue that women being “averse” to terms like killing is equally presumptive Ok I think you’re intentionally misinterpreting my words now. This is not a dichotomy.

        • @[email protected]
          1•4 months ago

          There are many problems and many solutions. We don’t need to focus on one problem and pick only one solution.

          My entire point here was that there is concern that industry jargon can be accidentally exclusionary to some demographics, interest and research on it isn’t new, and the effect is usually a “death by a thousand cuts” type thing, like migroaggressions are.

          I didn’t specialize in this, so my knowledge on it is from one part of one class I took like 15 years ago, but I can absolutely see how it could matter.

          People aren’t rational and society doesn’t raise us rationally. We can be perfectly ok with something in one context but not ok with it in another context. We can be ok with one thing, but not ok with another similar thing.

          I agree there are deeper societal issues about how we raise boys and the incentives/traumas we put on kids. That doesn’t mean we cant pick off this low hanging fruit at no cost.
          It’s important to meet people where they are, not where we think they should be.

            • @[email protected]
              1•4 months ago

              probably more important to fix that problem where the bike crumples

              This solution is zero effort

              microaggressions […] question of whether it even exists to any significant degree

              It does. Ask POC

              with a really hard solution

              It’s zero effort to change jargon like this.

              we could move to stop microaggressions, or we could like, move to stop racial bias hiring practices

              We can do both. That was a bold false dichotomy

              do not have normal behaviors

              If your argument is that neurodivergent people can’t switch from “whitelist” to “allowlist” I think that says more about your personality than neurodivergency.

              we may actually just be making things more complicated for people who do not function inside of the bubble of normality.

              Ok there, that sounds like a pile of FUD to prevent progress

              simply prime people to not care

              Ok there psychology genius. Tell us how to do this and receive your nobel prize

              I’m done replying to your novel length piles regressive bullshit and excuses dressed up in polite language.