It sounds way less offensive to those who decry the original terminology’s problematic roots but still keeps its meaning intact.

  • @[email protected]
    1•4 months ago

    Did they ever mention the history of the CS field generally being sexist towards women? Yes, of course. WTH? Why would you ever think someone passionate about this would not bring that up?

    I would also argue that women being “averse” to terms like killing is equally presumptive Ok I think you’re intentionally misinterpreting my words now. This is not a dichotomy.

      • @[email protected]
        1•4 months ago

        There are many problems and many solutions. We don’t need to focus on one problem and pick only one solution.

        My entire point here was that there is concern that industry jargon can be accidentally exclusionary to some demographics, interest and research on it isn’t new, and the effect is usually a “death by a thousand cuts” type thing, like migroaggressions are.

        I didn’t specialize in this, so my knowledge on it is from one part of one class I took like 15 years ago, but I can absolutely see how it could matter.

        People aren’t rational and society doesn’t raise us rationally. We can be perfectly ok with something in one context but not ok with it in another context. We can be ok with one thing, but not ok with another similar thing.

        I agree there are deeper societal issues about how we raise boys and the incentives/traumas we put on kids. That doesn’t mean we cant pick off this low hanging fruit at no cost.
        It’s important to meet people where they are, not where we think they should be.

          • @[email protected]
            1•4 months ago

            probably more important to fix that problem where the bike crumples

            This solution is zero effort

            microaggressions […] question of whether it even exists to any significant degree

            It does. Ask POC

            with a really hard solution

            It’s zero effort to change jargon like this.

            we could move to stop microaggressions, or we could like, move to stop racial bias hiring practices

            We can do both. That was a bold false dichotomy

            do not have normal behaviors

            If your argument is that neurodivergent people can’t switch from “whitelist” to “allowlist” I think that says more about your personality than neurodivergency.

            we may actually just be making things more complicated for people who do not function inside of the bubble of normality.

            Ok there, that sounds like a pile of FUD to prevent progress

            simply prime people to not care

            Ok there psychology genius. Tell us how to do this and receive your nobel prize

            I’m done replying to your novel length piles regressive bullshit and excuses dressed up in polite language.

              • @[email protected]
                1•4 months ago

                Tldr your novella of regressive FUD.

                You can’t get a perfect solution so you refuse to accept any solution is the Hallmark of the disingenuous redpill in disguise.

                Go sell your snake oil elsewhere