Well, this just got darker.

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    This is a weird one, because while fantasy is fantasy, and doesn’t necessarily indicate an intention to act on anything, these people were dumb enough to share these specific fantasies with some random AI porn site. That’s got to be an indicator of poor impulse control, right?

    That alone should probably warrant immediate FBI background checks, or whatever relevant agencies have jurisdiction for these types of criminal investigations in each user’s locality.

    Of course, I am saying it’s without actually having read any of the chats. So it’s possible my opinion would change from “this should be investigated”, to summary executions and burn the bodies for good measure… but no way I’m reading those fucking chats.

    • @[email protected]
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      902 months ago

      Just to be clear, are you saying that people should be investigated by the police for fictional stories that they read?

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        No, I am saying that sharing fantasies about underage children with a shady and poorly designed AI porn site, shows a serious lack of judgement and impulse control.

        For that reason, yeah, they probably deserve having a quick review of their life to make sure that’s the only poor choice they’ve made in regards to that particular fantasy.

        And they weren’t just reading, they were prompting the LLM model to generate these specific fantasies. They didn’t just come across a fucked up website and read a few forum posts.

        • @[email protected]
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          472 months ago

          If we investigated everyone with poor impulse control, we’d be investigating 80% of the world.

          • circuscritic
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            122 months ago

            80% of the world shares their pedophile fantasies with shoddy AI LLM porn sites…?

            • sunzu2
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              bro we got literal pedophiles roaming the streets… catholic church, other “churches”, hollywood and youtube “influencers” all have known pedophiles WHO NOT BEING PROSECUTED FOR THE CRIMES THEY ALREADY COMMITTED

              But you want state resources wasted what is essentially a thought crime or because “they might be pedophiles”?

              🤡

              Idiots can’t even properly ID the threat… no wonder country is going down the drain.

              • circuscritic
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                132 months ago

                no sex crimes should be investigated until the Catholic Church and Hollywood have been purged of pedophiles

                Well, that’s certainly an opinion.

                • sunzu2
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                  do you have evidence of a sex crime?

                  if so, please report to your local prosecutor and police.

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                    That’s a curious new benchmark for posting comments and opinions on this subject. You can only do so if you also have case files and evidence to forward to local prosecutors and police of crimes in your area.

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                I heard even a US president is one… and still walks free.

                • sunzu2
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                  Yes, clinton and trump both flew on Esptain plane… nothing was done.

                  Ruling class and their regime whores seem to get away with whatever but we got normies wanting FEDS to investigate chat logs of incels to “save the kids, just in case”

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          I’m just saying, police investigation of fiction creators and readers for the content of their fiction is way over the line of a lot of social and political norms.

          (Also, I think you’ll find that police abuse children a lot more than pervy fiction fans do; so really, who should be investigating whom? Investigation into crime is supposed to start with evidence that a crime actually occurred — not with your personal disgust towards someone’s reading matter.)

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            You’re really going to great lengths to ignore what I’ve been saying, and instead responding to whatever strawman you find most convenient.

            Now you’ve moved onto, “why should police investigate pedophiles, when they are the real pedophiles. In fact, the pedophile fantasy users of the site should be investigating the police”.

            I mean, do you even hear yourself?

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              I hate torture-porn movies like the Saw series, but a lot of people are fans of them. Should I worry that those people are likely to commit kidnapping, torture, and murder? Should I advocate that the makers or watchers of those movies be investigated for kidnapping, torture, and murder — without any evidence that a crime was committed?

              We don’t send the cops after people for liking murder stories, theft stories, industrial sabotage stories, or treason stories. We shouldn’t send the cops after people for liking stories of Harry Potter getting fucked by Severus Snape either.

              I think you should be more careful to distinguish fantasy from reality. Most fiction readers and writers have no problem doing so.

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                Strawman, strawman, strawman.

                Even when I reiterate that we’re not talking about passive consumption of media, but active participation in something else entirely, you can’t help but ignore that, and continue lobbing out fallacy after fallacy.

                Maybe you should reread my original comments, and see why your comments have been so pointless, bordering on disingenuous.

                • @[email protected]
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                  262 months ago

                  So you’re into sending the police after the writers, directors, and producers of the Saw movies, but not the audiences?

                  I dunno man, that’s still too fascist for my tastes, but you can keep fantasizing about it. I promise I won’t try to send the police after you for your perverted fantasies of state power.

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                  You don’t understand what you are talking about. Legally or otherwise.

    • @[email protected]
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      Is that an indicator of poor impulse control? Really? Finding some shady back of the internet ai site to put some weird fantasy prompts into to get themselves off? Seems pretty calculated to me. They can’t put it somewhere legitimate where content is moderated and policed. Seems like pretty sound logic to me.

      Dont get me wrong, these people are sick. If thats what they are into then theres something wrong, but instead of targeting real kids like so many people actually do, you know, like hollywood, celebrities, musicians, the catholic church etc they are entering prompts and reading stories. Sounds like impulse controlled to me.