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    Let’s completely forget everything but the election for this hypothetical. Do you think Harris coming out and saying “I will immediately stop supporting Israel” she will automatically win? Or do you think it’s more likely the Jewish community would condemn her words and move over to the rubber stamp in chief who would give Israel even more support with fewer conditions? (Ignoring the personal favors he asks for of course.)

    Yall act like this is a simple black and white issue, when it’s obviously not. Even when you boil it down to “just” the election.

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      73 days ago

      Yes an arms embargo net her an easy win.

      The Jewish community does not care about sending infinite weapons to Netanyahu.

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          Genocide is not a core tenant in the Jewish faith. To say all Jews are Zionists is incredibly antisemitic.

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        Ah yes, in a world where simply protesting the murder of tens of thousands of Palestinians is branded “antisemitism,” directly preventing military aid to Israel will somehow be perfectly fine.

        Please, tell me more about this magical fairytale land you live in, it certainly seems a hell of a lot more likable than reality.

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          Netanyahu is campaigning for Trump. Coming out against a foreign pm because that pm is helping your election competitor shouldn’t be that difficult to pull off.

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      Oooh, so Kamala is playing 5D chess and will do an about-face on Biden’s genocide policy when she enters office? Because her past record is so stellar on this issue? Like that time she had wine from an illegal settlement served at the White House? She and her boss wipe their ass with the rule of all and all pretensions of even basic human morality on an international level, but she’s not Trump!

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        “genocide policy”? The talking points are so transparent at this point.

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        Strawman much? Or are you arguing with voices I can’t hear?

        Edit: Y’know what? I’m curious. How do you envision her coming out against Israel going? Let’s hear your version of how things would go, because I can’t hear these arguments as anything other than “I support Trump.”

        So please, enlighten me as to how this would go down without Trump being elected and making the situation worse.

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          12 days ago

          Do you think you’re on The West Wing or something? You’ll have your curiosity sated when you learn to step out of the Blue MAGA bubble and engage with reality.

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              It is. The Biden administration does not have a policy to, nor are they, committing genocide. No one is arguing that they should.

              That clearly fits the definition:

              an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent’s real argument

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              No, of course not, it’s just saying their argument is something that it isn’t. I swear there is a term for that.

              To be fair, I get it. Because I can’t hear your arguments as anything other than “I support genocide”.

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                Stating what I take the arguments as, is absolutely not a strawman. At no point did I say “you are stating that you want Trump to win, why would you say that?”

                If you need me to define strawman arguments, I can. But it might be better if you just googled it instead.

                Of course you could always shove your head deeper in that hole if you like. Perhaps going “lalalalala” while doing so.