• @RedditRefugee69
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    2910 hours ago

    Agreed except for the secret police part.

    I feel like secret police are undercover cops who specifically enforce the laws or policy of secret courts.

    A cop posing as a kid online to bait a sexual predator isn’t “secret police” like the Stasi to me.

    • @[email protected]
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      26 hours ago

      A cop infiltrating the notorious terrorist group ‘food not bombs’.

      Or watch the movie ‘Judas and the black messiah’. Its a dramatization of a real secret police plot in the 1970s.

      • @RedditRefugee69
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        23 hours ago

        Tembah, his arms wide.

        Seriously, what are you trying to express to me in your first “sentence?”

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      129 hours ago

      The Chicago blacksites seem like they would fit that description, they gave zero fucks about due process or civil rights, following their own law

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      79 hours ago

      Agreed. Undercover DEA agent busting up a drug ring (regardless of debate about what drugs should be legalized) is a bit different from a task force suppressing political opposition through imprisonment and "accidents ". Though I’m wondering if the gap with decrease over the next four years…

      • @[email protected]
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        47 hours ago

        Count on it. I recall seeing videos of protestors around Trump’s last year in office getting yanked into unmarked vans. I think it was around the same time he was using customs and border protection to do peacekeeping operations.

      • @[email protected]
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        16 hours ago

        How about agent provocateurs infiltrating protests and instigating crime as a pretense for police to crack down?

        Would that qualify?

      • @RedditRefugee69
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        17 hours ago

        Therein lies the issue with Crying Wolf.

        When the real US Secret Police is established next year, the alarm will already have been sounded and will therefore be less effective.

        • @[email protected]
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          15 hours ago

          is established next year

          Oh honey. Do you know the history of the FBI? Of the american labor movement?

          Respect for the home domain BTW. Lemmy needs more porn if its going to grow, thank you for doing your part to nourish the open web.

          • @RedditRefugee69
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            23 hours ago

            There’s a big difference between the Stasi and the FBI. Granted, the FBI has been known to occasionally do Stasi-esque illegal shit (most notably assassinating MLK), but that’s not their mission statement and what they do the vast majority of the time.

            Again, you will probably be right in a little while when Project 2025 kicks in, but at present you’re pulling the fire alarm because someone is unwrapping a toaster strudel.

            • @[email protected]
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              13 hours ago

              Do you think mlk was the first or last?

              Judi Bari was literally arrested for car bombing herself.

              • @RedditRefugee69
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                12 hours ago

                You’re either intentionally or unintentionally ignoring my point.

                Goodbye!

    • @[email protected]
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      69 hours ago

      To me secret police are plain clothes officers who drive ordinary looking cars until the hidden lights come on. They’re literally keeping it a secret from the public that they’re enforcing the law.

      • @RedditRefugee69
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        13 hours ago

        That’s not a definition of “secret police” I’ve ever heard of, but you’re obviously more than welcome to think of it that way. Just know that’s not what the rest of us are referring to.