Why doesn’t she just take her Harry potter money and remove herself from society on some private island or something? How damaged do you need to be to want to start fights with an already marginalised section of society? What a rubbish human being!
This is something I’ll never understand. If I won the lottery tomorrow I’d disappear in a puff of smoke. You wouldn’t catch me dead making a Tweet about it, much less fighting people over random bullshit
It all comes back to “Drama Kids” from school. And I don’t mean people who love to spread drama, but I mean theater kids. They LOOOOVE the spotlight, hence why they went into theater. They crave the attention, and they’re willing to put themselves out there for it regardless.
Oh yeah, those theater kids and their notorious disdain of LGBT and other marginalized groups.
You’re saying you’ve never met or known a theater person who wasn’t a total piece of shit? Because I’ve known a few myself. They’re the star of the show, regardless of what’s going on around them.
That’s what I’m talking about.
I believe the technical term you’re looking for is narcissist, “theater person” is bit of a broader metric.
If anything, theatre person is a narrow metric. There are people who have never stepped a foot in theatre but they’re narcissists.
Well no, I was just making a joke about the stereotype.
So in your ideal world, there are no actors, artists, musicians, public speakers, or any other people whose work involves being in front of an audience? Can’t wait to live in your beige cubical farm of a metropolis.
Because when you have everything the money can buy, you become greedy for attention.
Reminds me of Notch’s late tirades after selling mohjang, dude was clearly bored so picked fights on twitter every week. I’m glad he’s finding purpose again after deleting his account on a dare with another big game design youtuber.
When you have all the money and power of a god all that’s left is being worshipped like one. These people are very mentally sick.
Because once you have a taste of power you want more. She wants to use her position of influence to propagate her beliefs.
I’d be happy to retire to a small cottage on a private lake, but maybe I just haven’t been sufficiently corrupted by power yet.
Honestly this is what I don’t understand about her, especially when her words and attitude go directly against the themes that the books she wrote outlined. For example, Hermione being called slurs like mudblood and the other characters sticking up for her. Hagrid who has to live with himself as part giant and is considered a threat by most of the wizarding world, but those who are close and know him, know that hes a kind hearted person.
In almost every instance where a character has to deal with something about themselves that’s different than the others, the lesson is that everyone should always accept who they are and that they’re valid in being who or what they are.
Instead in real life she just ignores all of this and just acts like a disgusting piece of shit, and you have to wonder how she even wrote these books when she lives her days talking and acting like this.
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That’s not true, there’s also Helena Bonham Carter and the now deceased Robbie Coltrane
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Because terfs think assigned sex is the thing to be accepted and not transness. Part of me sorta sees it when I look from a lens that completely ignores my experiences as a trans person and the experiences of every trans person I’ve spoken to. Misogyny is fucking rough, I get thinking people would do anything to avoid dealing with it. Dysphoria would’ve driven me to suicide though so I suck up the misogyny while I fight against it
That’s the thing though - individuals learn to accept individuals as who they are. JKR establishes that there is systemic oppression in the wizarding world (house elf slavery is the big one, but it’s very explicit in the text that there are issues with goblins, centaurs and other magical races) - but does nothing to show that the systems have resolved/improved by the end of the series. Individuals learn lessons, but the system is inflexible.
The way that oppression is solved in the books is always through individual action. Even when the wizarding government is implementing policies harmful to muggle-norms/magical races, it’s portrayed as a bad person being bad because they are bad. Draco/Umbridge/Voldemort are individuals that we identify with the oppression itself, so the problem of dealing with wizard racism becomes the much simpler problem of dealing with The Bad Wizards.
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Becuase then she’d be irrelevant in her own eyes and that’s not acceptable to her
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Sounds about right
lolmao
My ghetto-rasied white sister-in-law that loves Motown & has worn cornrows, would quite literally beat her into a pulp for saying something this stupid within her reach.
And yes mouthy bigots deserve their ass beat, but go ahead & show the rest of us how you are so “progressive” that you stand up for the absolute worse of humanity.
Seems like a perfectly rational response.
Eye for an eye
I was being sarcastic; its fucking mental to brag about how easily your sister resorts to violence.
You dont think there might be some hyperbole in that claim?
Would that really make it less mental?
Hyperbole is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech.
Yes, It would be less mental because I am suggesting that the person doesn’t necessarily mean it literally. You see sometime people say things that isn’t true for dramatic effect.
Happily we no longer need to wonder as op confirmed this was not hyperbole.
You see sometime people say things that isn’t true for dramatic effect.
An interesting thing to post to someone who declared they were being sarcastic. You know, when I said aomething that wasn’t true for dramatic effect?
Maybe she needs therapy (and no I’m not defending Rowling, she is trash)
Edit: downvoting therapy, upvoting violence. You people would make your parents proud.
I hate to be honest but JKR’s words turn into literal violence for trans people soooo congrats on how high your horse is
congrats on how high your horse is
Quite ironic way to end a “I’m more woke than thou” comment
Okay!
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That totally that
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You have no idea what I meant or what I believe and I have zero desire to explain anything to you since you assumed a bunch bullshit. Bye, jerk.
You’re saying wizard nerds who are fans of JKR… became violent toward trans people? Wat.
Incorrect. Nice try
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Yes, because she has. Maybe not with the haryy Potter books, but with her posts certainly.
Just because she failed doesn’t mean she wasn’t doing it.
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It’s amazing that at the slightest disagreement, hell in this case, even questioning something, someone has to be a troll.
Maybe, but I doubt it would really do anything for her. She’s actually not a bad person, but her upbringing means she’s not the least bit concerned about going to jail after whipping a bad person’s ass.
Yeah I am not saying anger issues make someone “bad” I’m just suggesting they can be dealt with better ways than brutalizing another humam
Rights have never been gained through peaceful protest. There has always had to be enough blood spilled to scare the ever living shit out of those in power for us to gain anything at all.
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You tell 'em, best friend.
which us is your current us ?
Workers
If it’s a fucking bigot, who cares?
There is a reason that millennia of philosophers have been against violence. Same reason people oppose the death penalty. Boils mostly down to: “what if you’re wrong?”
You dont respect my existence, you can expect my resistance.
See also: Talk shit, get hit.
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Seriously why do people describe themselves as awful people then think it’ll convince me they’re rational people with an opinion worth listening to?
I hate how this woman still gets attention. Sigh.
Ragebait and the internet, together forever.
Including here on Lemmy.
It’s why we’re here in this case specifically.
transphobia
look inside
racism
She bigoted so hard she got the blue sparks
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Chait’s response to Rowling’s racist reply to him is exceptional.
A completely normal way to respond to being asked to use folks pronouns…
“You say you use she/her pronouns, but what if I said some dumb racist shit? Check mate un-TERFs!”
It makes me wonder if she says things like, “hello, black person. Is this the line for the post office?”
Wasn’t that a bit in a movie? Maybe the one where the family got locked in a nuclear bunker and thought the apocalypse happened? The dad comes out and says something like “look son! A <Spanish word for the color “black”>”?
Or maybe it was the other way. Yeah…I think it was the adult-child, who lived his whole life in the bunker, that said that.
Sounds like blast from the past, but I haven’t seen it in so long I don’t remember that…
Indeed it was A Blast from the Past
It’s weird that she says
what if I claim to be…
Really missing the point that people ain’t claiming to be anything. It’s what they are.
You can have black ancestry and appear not-black, so this really doesn’t support her argument at all.
She wouldn’t understand a complexity like that.
She seems like the type that would accuse such people of faking it to get special treatment, because they don’t look “black” enough. The right-wing media in Australia were pushing that line for a while (and probably still are).
In such a case, is such a person black?
Now that is a complicated question. There is a “one drop” narrative that extreme supremacists have… but someone who doesn’t look black claiming blackness would definitely get a side eye from a chunk of the black community where even lighter skinned black folks are made aware of the privileges of shade and tone…
So probably both yes and no or the principle of Mu depending on circumstance?
Does it matter?
The real answer is it depends on what box they check when they fill out forms. Presuming they don’t check the “choose not to answer” box. Then there’s simply no way of knowing.
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I agree! She could be big-boned and 17 for all I know. I certainly don’t care. Also, no way she’s the first, the others just couldn’t talk about it because of people like you.
JK Rowling being deplorable aside, every time I see someone getting “s l a m m e d” in a headline I feel myself age a week.
It makes me think of the awful time when Australian news became obsessed with “shirtfronted”. Shit like this makes a little piece of my brain die every time I remember it.
Never heard this one but I love it. I’m sure it gets old after the 100th time or so.
it’s just such a pathetically juvenile way to describe politics. “mr big punches women in face man going to tackle mr hires assassins brutal dictator of maybe the third most powerful country in the world man”. Uh huh, I bet he is. As we all know politics is about how much testosterone you can smear from your glands on each other while wrestling and not a largely redundant performing into being of relationships between people orchestrated by thousands.
How she went from one of the most beloved authors of all time to this will never cease to amaze me.
She wasn’t so vocal previously; maybe she was the same kind of person back then too, but it wasn’t evident since people were judging her solely based on her work.
https://youtu.be/-1iaJWSwUZs?si=DMzEZc13afi9GVKT
It’s long but worth the watch. When you look at the books knowing what we know now, it’s very obvious she’s always been this way
Oh I’ve no doubt that she’s always harbored these views. More that if she’d just kept her mouth shut, she’d still be mostly adored. Like there’d still be some people looking at her with a critical lens, but most wouldn’t care.
Basically, she’s a bigot, and an idiot.
she’s a bigot, and an idiot.
name a more iconic duo.
People will probably study this phenomenon for a long time to come, but people become wildly fanatical when a person in power shares their bigoted views and people in power can’t seem to resist turning it up to 11 because those types of fans make you feel like an absolute god.
Maybe from her POV being famous for writing the books became mundane, but all these people suddenly treating her like she’s a sociopolitical genius probably hits that reward button so well she just can’t stop taking another hit.
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what about trolling bigots?
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so troll Rowling? ok.
“jk, trolling”
🎵 Keep trolling trolling Rowling 🎵
Yet another example of Joanne specifically, and reactionaries as a whole having only The One Joke™
It would almost be funny if it wasn’t so damn frustrating.
She’s so close to getting it, that gender is as much of a bullshit category as race is.
Frustrating to see someone understanding partially but not making the final leap to connect it.People like that understand exactly as much as they want to understand in order to further their ideological goal.
If they’re both social constructs, why can’t she do what she’s saying? We acknowledge the material difference when it comes to skin pigment but not the differences between male and female bodies. It’s very weird. People can live how they want as far as I’m concerned, but the logic is clearly not consistent.
JK Rowling continues to lose it.
Honestly race is a social construct formed initially out of ethnicity in a very similar way to gender being a social construct formed initially out of sex. I don’t think most people would be offended by someone whose cultural behavior matched that of a race not normally associated with their ethnicity, as long as it was genuine and not done simply to appropriate another culture.
Like, if a white kid is raised around a lot of Jamaican immigrants, falls in love with reggae, and becomes a Canadian reggae sensation, we aren’t gonna say that he’s black (because he isn’t), but we also aren’t gonna say that Snow is appropriating Jamaican culture.
I guess it could be an interesting question for a more open future society, whether “trans-racial” identity could eventually be something we could identify and accept.
But of course TERFy bitch J.K. Rowling isn’t asking this question in good faith, she’s trying to be edgy and punch down, like she’s constantly doing these days. So, no J.K. Rowling. Fuck off.
I’m white but grew up in Latin America. Nobody cares if I act Latino in Latin American contexts but if I do with a bunch of white people who don’t know me it can be weird. Also there’s the whole “racially self deprecating latino humor” area that I just kinda try to steer out of generally because nope…
I get that. White people carry so much guilt that we sort of knee-jerk about racial stuff.
I remember in high school I was talking about one of my co-workers, whom I described as “Mexican.” I was told by some of my well-meaning but extremely white classmates, “Don’t call him that, that’s offensive. You should say Hispanic. You don’t know where he’s from.”
I said, “Yes I do. His name is Juan, he’s from Mexico, and he’s Mexican. I know that because I talk to him. He was a police officer there, and decided to get out when he was shot three times. He came to the US and he works in a kitchen here.”
There is an episode of 30 Rock where Tina Fey’s character asks Selma Hayek’s character (the character is Puerto Rican) what she should call her. She says, “A Puerto Rican.”
Tina Fey’s character says, “I know you can say that, but what do I say?”
“A PUERTO RICAN!”
“That does not sound right…”
It’s my understanding that black Latinos feel the same way that you do. People look at you like you’re crazy when you call Sammy Davis, Jr. Latino despite that he always made sure everyone knew he was Puerto Rican. He used to regularly call himself “the only black, Puerto Rican, one-eyed, Jewish entertainer in the world.”
Edit: Apparently, Sammy was actually Afro-Cuban, but he called himself Puerto Rican because he was worried about anti-Cuban sentiment. TIL.
Or to make it more modern for the kids today- telling a lot of people that Zoe Saldana is Latina doesn’t click with them because she’s black. Even if you tell them her parents were from Cuba. Even though her last name is fucking Saldana.
Sorry, but the entire “cultural appropriation” thing is utter bullshit. It’s made up rules (social construct, anyone?) just to be able to be better than thou.
Honestly race is a social construct formed
No, it’s not. There are such things as different races and ancestries. I don’t gaf what rave you are, but I get pissed once you start behaving better than thou.
This “cultural appropriation” fad is godawful and needs to go. Live and Let live. Saying that somebody can’t do something because they’re from the wrong culture and if not it’s worng think is the exact behavior that you’re supposed to root out. You’re doing the exact thing as the old boomers, just on the other side!
I practice kyokushin karate, as Japanese (and a bit Korean) as it gets. I have a kyokushin kanji tattooed on my arm. I’m also a gasp white male, oh noes! Cultural appropriation! Just that, you know, I had my shodan exam taken by Shigeru Tabata himself, who is -surprise- Japanese, and who WANTS me to use parts of his culture, he is actively promoting it.
Most (just, all) people don’t mind when others use parts of their culture, that is what cultures do, they change, mix, and evolve over time. Mexicans don’t give a crap that Americans wear sombreros on Cinco de mayo, they will sell you those sombreros to being with and love it that you love that part of the culture!
In come the university students who know better than everyone else about their own culture to now tell you that you’re abusing Mexican culture!
Just. Shut. Up. Already.
Live and Let live, stop searching for and making up evil monsters, just let people be Happy.
And yes, you calling jk Rowling a terf bitch shows that you’re not writing this is good faith, you’re just trying to be edgy and punch down.
Just. Shut. Up. Already.
I’m not sure why you’re angry at me. I never accused anyone of cultural appropriation, merely described a situation where no rational person would. I also generally think the concept is overly policed on the internet and often bullshit. I have argued for years that culture is meant to be shared. I’m a singer, and I do not hesitate to sing songs from cultures outside my own, and indeed I try to find the right way to express that song as much like the other cultures would as I can.
Like everything else in life, though, this is not black and white. There is such a thing as cultural appropriation, and it is when cultures are belittled and not treated with respect. Participating in a culture is fine. Making your team mascot “Chief Wahoo” is not.
No, it’s not. There are such things as different races and ancestries.
I recommend you look into this more. Here is just one example from a quick Google search. What we mean when we talk about race is not nearly as black-and-white (pun intended) as we think, genetically speaking, and is largely something we decide as a society. Thus, a social construct. Like gender. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t have meaning or value, just that it isn’t something unchanging. Like, for example, how Irish and Italians weren’t considered “White” and now are. Or how complicated things can get within some Hispanic communities with regard to skin color.
And yes, you calling jk Rowling a terf bitch shows that you’re not writing this is good faith, you’re just trying to be edgy and punch down.
I’m not sure it’s possible for me to punch down at a billionaire, least of all by calling out her blatant transphobia. I’m also not sure how taking swings at her means I’m not writing in good faith. I suspect you’re just upset and I’m not entirely sure why. Take a deep breath, my friend.
I’m with you approximately %100.
One thing I’ve done when arguing with a person that insists race is real and meaningful is to ask the other person how many races they think there are.
It gets the gears turning a bit.
European, African, East Asian, Arabic, South Asian, Indigenous Australian, Indigenous New Zealander/Pacific Islanders (same or different?), North American Indigenous, South American Indigenous? are Mexico’s Indigenous people the same race as Amazonians? Peru? Are they the same race as the Inuit of the arctic?
etc etc
“What kind of race, African or European?”
I like showing them pictures of Melanesians and asking them if they can guess which part of Africa they’re from.
They literally track disease by that thing that doesn’t exist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_health
From your link:
In the study of race and health, scientists organize people in racial categories depending on different factors such as: phenotype, ancestry, social identity, genetic makeup and lived experience.
Overall, racial health disparities appear to be rooted in social disadvantages associated with race such as implicit stereotyping and average differences in socioeconomic status.
Cool cool I’m now totally convinced race is meaningful. How many races would you say there are? I probably agree.
yes, yes, you found a paragraph to be clever with, I’m so destroyed by facts and logic. (I wouldn’t try count myself…a fucking lot.)
If there are “a fucking lot” of races, are you sure you mean races, and not ethnicities?
I think race means like, “well there are several races of people: white people, black people, yellow people, brown people and red people” …
Imagine claiming this level of attainment in martial arts only to have such poor mental control.
Just. Shut. Up. Already.
Nope
On top of all this stupidity, how is calling jkr a terf bitch punching down?
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…implying that she believes in Blood Quantum as well. Yikes.
Trans people, PoC… she was having a go at disabled people in her last book as well. I think maybe trolling has an addictive component and they have to reach further and further to get the same adrenaline hit.
What’s Blood Quantum? Also, that would’ve been a sick name for 007 movie.
Blood quantum laws were originally laws made by colonizers in the US deciding who got to be Indigenous based on the percentage of “Indian blood” they have - colonial era Australia did the same thing to Aboriginal people. Slavery-era classifications like “octaroon” are another example.
I was using it more broadly here to mean the essentialist belief that ethnicity is dna-based.
Blood Quantum is also a horror movie :-)
