Internet Archive (@archive.org)
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Sorry to say, archive.org is under a ddos attack. The data is not affected, but most services are unavailable. We are working on it & will post updates in comments.

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    • SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.mlEnglish
      142·
      11 months ago

      Not surprising. They archive information that powerful people would rather we forget monetise.

      FTFY

    • General_Effort@lemmy.worldEnglish
      42·
      11 months ago

      I doubt this has to do with “powerful people”. A DDOS attack does not remove anything from the net, but only makes it temporarily hard to reach.

      There are firms that specialize in suppressing information on the net. They use SEO tricks to get sites down-ranked, as well as (potentially fraudulent) copyright and GDPR request.

      There must be any number of “little guys” who hate the Internet Archive. They scrape copyrighted stuff and personal data “without consent” and even disregard robots.txt. Lemmy is full of people who think that people should go to jail for that sort of thing.

  • elliot_crane@lemmy.worldEnglish
    286·
    11 months ago

    I was briefly able to get to https://archive.org/donate - I’m going to kick them a few bucks and recommend anyone else who can afford to also do so.

    There’s also this, copied verbatim from the site:

    Other ways to donate Mail your donation to:
Internet Archive
C/O Philanthropy Department
300 Funston Avenue
San Francisco, CA  94118-2116

    In order to ensure you receive an acknowledgement of your gift as quickly as possible, please include an email address with your mailed donation. We regret that we cannot accept cash or check donations in currencies other than USD.

    Stock or Wire Transfer:
If you would like to make a stock or wire transfer gift, please contact us at [email protected]

    I say we go full Streisand effect on whatever dickhead is trying to censor them.

        • girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          27·
          11 months ago

          It might be that someone wanted to change something that was on a website before the archive could get to it too.

          • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            34·
            11 months ago

            That’s a ridiculous amount of effort to go through to slow down a scraper for one site, especially when that site could just be… turned off.

              • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                15·
                11 months ago

                Then it still makes no sense, as you being unable to take down the content means you also very likely can’t edit the content. I can’t think of a situation where you:

                1. Need content to not be scraped
                2. Need time to remove/edit that content
                3. Have access to do the above
                4. Don’t have access to pull the content immediately
                5. Have control of a large enough botnet to take down Internet Archive
                6. Don’t have a big enough botnet to take down the aforementioned content
    • kandoh@reddthat.comEnglish
      27·
      11 months ago

      They’re storing proof of my fuck up which I fixed but if anyone looks it up I’m cooked

  • anticurrent@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    138·
    11 months ago

    I very rarely go to the internet archive, but the moment I needed to get a safe copy of very old software, shitty people decided to DDOS it. shitty humans. find better hobbies losers

    • uis@lemm.eeEnglish
      5·
      11 months ago

      I read “find better hobbies” as find better horsies

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    115·
    11 months ago

    I was wondering what was going on. The Internet Archive is an incredibly important asset beyond archiving websites because it has things like the Prelinger Collection, which is the largest archive of industrial, educational and other ephemeral films, which would be only accessible via commercial sites like YouTube otherwise.

    And that’s really the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the audio, video and texts available.

    I hope this gets resolved soon.

        • Štěpán@lemmy.cafeEnglish
          4·
          11 months ago

          I set the downvote gesture to reply instead, which I’ll definitely notice if I do it by mistake.

      • 🐍🩶🐢@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        I know right? It sucks having a curved screen with a case as it pushes my thumb in the exact worst spot on the side of the screen. I accidentally do things all the time. I rest my thumb on the case edge to try and avoid it, but if I barely tilt, it touches the oversensitive touchscreen. First world problems.

    • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.todayEnglish
      30·
      11 months ago

      Sometimes people miss-tap while scrolling. Also, on kbin at least, you can who downvote things if they’re on kbin. I think if you run your own instance, as an admin you can see who as well?

      • Dojan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        11 months ago

        This is definitely something that has to be thought about in terms of UI/UX design. I recently developed a Outlook calendar-esque interface, and we’ve had on-and-off discussions for a couple of hours about how we best implement a way to “click” an empty spot in the calendar to create an event there.

        I’m championing “we don’t on mobile, but use double-click on desktop.” I think I’m winning.

      • Melkath@kbin.social
        2·
        11 months ago

        I didn’t know know you could see who voted on kbin.

        I just knew lemmy, mbin, and some others don’t get counted, so the troll down boats don’t matter.

    • redcalcium@lemmy.instituteEnglish
      17·
      11 months ago

      Due to how federation works, downvotes are actually somewhat public because instance owners can query them in lemmy database, though instance owners probably won’t tell you if you ask due to privacy reason. If you’re interested in something like this, you can run your own instance.

      • Dark Arc@social.packetloss.ggEnglish
        13·
        11 months ago

        Yeah, it’s actually … a bit creepy.

        Federated voting in general seems like it could use some rethinking to enable private voting but also to protect against vote manipulation. Right now the fediverse is arguably incredibly vulnerable to vote manipulation campaigns.

        • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          12·
          11 months ago

          Open (and distributed) and private are two very difficult things to intermingle. You can mitigate some issues, but at the end of the day the two ideas have to butt against each other.

            • capital@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              11 months ago

              What aspect of the points mentioned in the thread do you feel are addressed by blockchain?

              • laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                1·
                11 months ago

                Openly distributed while being private(-ish; I know blockchains aren’t truly private but it could at least obfuscate it adequately against casual or semi serious attempts to identify someone)

                I’ll admit I’m no expert or even particularly well versed in blockchain technologies, but my (limited) understanding of them suggests this might actually be the kind of thing it’s good at (as opposed to how it could seemingly do anything a few years ago and everyone was trying to shoehorn a blockchain into their products)

                And to underline part of my comment, I did say “I wonder if…” rather than asserting that it would work or even that I bet it would work

                • capital@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  2·
                  11 months ago

                  Fedi technologies are already distributed. That’s literally what federation is about.

                  Blockchain isn’t private by default although some have gone that direction. Bitcoin, for example, is pseudonymous - all transactions are public to the world though no tx is tied to an identity on chain.

                  Any privacy features you’re imagining can be built for a blockchain solution to this problem could be built into a “normal”, web 2.0, federated solution that would be far less expensive to run, resource-wise.

                  It’s almost always the case that when someone comes up with blockchain as the solution to some problem, they mean distributed or maybe self-hosted. Neither of which requires a blockchain.

                  Check out videos involving crypto on the Cartoon Avatar’s youtube channel such as this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xq721IAqBo&t.

                • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pubEnglish
                  1·
                  11 months ago

                  Fair point. Blockchain might be the quickest to implement just because the infrastructure is already established, even if it’s not trivial. Not sure, though.

        • r3df0x ✡️✝☪️@7.62x54r.ruEnglish
          1·
          11 months ago

          I was wondering about this. If they didn’t keep track of who is voting, manipulation would be easier then it already is. The problem is that rogue instance admins could make votes public.

          • Dark Arc@social.packetloss.ggEnglish
            2·
            11 months ago

            One possible answer is to allow anyone to see votes categorized by instance, so you know where they’re originating from.

            Small/single user instances could be aggregated together/anonymized or maybe that’s just the price you pay for having a single user instance.

  • Snapz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    54·
    11 months ago

    The attack on the few remaining services that the “every person” openly benefits from is so disheartening.

    Not the save structure for org, but this feeling made be remember The Consumerist in it’s heyday and when it was bought and silenced effectively… you know kids, the internet used to be a thing that actually helped and supported us without the ready acceptance of 51% “hallucinations” in information. It was actual people, in small, quiet corners, that didn’t demand subscriptions and micro transactions at every turn. It wasn’t that long ago.

    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.todayEnglish
      28·
      11 months ago

      I’ll admit they have some powerful enemies, but I can’t imagine who specifically would be behind this. Maybe it’s not a conventional attack but some wealthy idiots trying to clone the archives to feed their dumb hobby.

      • Good_morningEnglish
        21·
        11 months ago

        That gave me a thought, could be a group trying to scrape some older content for use in feeding an llm since reddit was obviously a bad choice.

  • db2@lemmy.worldEnglish
    40·
    11 months ago

    So the recording industry thugs hired out a job. Not the first time.