• @[email protected]
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        They’re also a nonviolent class E felonies. I’d love to see him behind bars, but there’s no reason to expect a prison sentence. It’s possible, but not probable.

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          I’m being cautiously optimistic here, but I have to admit prison time is probably a long shot. Justice Merchan didn’t want to jail him on his ten instances of contempt, and I can understand wanting to avoid politicizing an already unprecedented trial and handing the defense reason for appeal. Given convicted felon Donald Trump’s behavior however, my personal prediction is something like house arrest and possibly a supervised release schedule. Total bullshit, but I do think Merchan has been playing the long game so that whatever sentence he hands down is airtight and holds up under appeal.

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      A part of me hopes they fine him $130k. Fining him the exact amount he paid Stormy Daniels somehow feels like an even bigger “fuck you” than the maximum possible financial penalty.

    • @[email protected]
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      An analysis I read said NY almost never imprisons a first time fraud offender. If true then it’s pretty unlikely he will be imprisoned at all.

      • Stern
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        On one hand you’re right about first time offenders, but on the other he’s made it clear monetary fines don’t dissuade him (e.g. the ten he got for his truth social attacks on the judge and co.) which could in turn influence the decision regarding jailtime.

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          Not the same crime, the same crime plus tax evasion and making false statements to a federally-insured bank.

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          That’s true. I guess it will come down to the details. Though will be interesting to see if the feasibility of actually sending Trump to prison (and protecting him, without 24/7 solitary confinement) weighs into it.

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      I believe the maximum total is 4 years, not cumulative. And given that it’s his first conviction, and he has a campaign to run, the chance he’ll spend any time in jail at all is slim.

      *edit: OP mentioned concurrently, so they said the same thing. Reading comprehension at 8 AM not booted up yet.

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      4 years, one for each year he was president.

      EDIT: begin the “four more years!” chanting

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    Four years ago he was a deranged fascist with limited mental faculties. I don’t think that dial has really moved.

  • @[email protected]
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    He was only ever a shadow of what you thought he was, that’s been the whole point the entire time, you are chasing shadows

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    Four years ago?

    I can’t tell the difference between his insane statements today, and his insane statements from 8+ years ago.

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    Dude is on so many drugs. It’s like that episode of Simpsons when mr burns sees the doctor and the doctor tries to push a bunch of plushies through the door

    • @[email protected]
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      That’s the power of cult of personality, and the weird idea of being dependant on a few “swing states”.

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        Hillary didn’t lose because of a cult of personality or a few swing states, she was just simply a shit candidate.

        If you’re worried about losing to Trump, then get your own candidate that’s not senile.

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          Hillary didn’t lose because of a cult of personality or a few swing states, she was just simply a shit candidate.

          She had decades of accumulated hatred from Republicans. She had resentment from Obama Democrats regarding her behavior in the 2008 primaries. She had greater resentment from Sanders Democrats because of the way party leadership favored her in the 2016 primaries. She coupled that with a VP nominee that was to her right, as a slap to the face of progressives she had done her best to alienate. Then she didn’t campaign in key swing states that she went on to lose.

          What I’m saying here is that she was not simply a shit candidate. Her shittiness was remarkable for its complexity.

          • @[email protected]
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            Likability has to be the most important characteristic to electability. JFK, Reagan, “I’d have a beer with Bush Jr.,” Obama, etc… It’s pretty much the “trump card” if you have it to any election; and Unlikability guarantees you’re doomed.

            If we had someone half-ways likeable; half-ways young… Well, that would basically be a trump card, dare I say. Harris isn’t it.

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              Unlikability guarantees you’re doomed.

              Uh Nixon? George HW Bush? Nobody actually liked them.

              FDR was a spoiled rich kid who married his cousin and couldn’t even stand up on his own. He was elected 4 times because Hoover and the Republicans couldn’t fix the Great Depression. Don’t underestimate the power of one party fucking up their own chances.

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          Give me a fucking break. Hillary was not a shit candidate. She’s arguably the most qualified candidate in recent elections, probably more so than Obama. And I don’t say that as someone who agrees with most of her policies but as someone who respects her intelligence and experience. She would have made an excellent president.

          Leaving aside our broken system, she lost because she is a woman and a lot of people can’t stand that.

        • Lexi Sneptaur
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          Hillary and Biden are both pretty decent candidates. They both seem to have poor electoral strategy though. Its so bad it almost seems by design