“You’re telling me you signed up for a Marvel movie, and some fucking universe for cartoon characters, and you didn’t get enough pathos?”

  • Patapon Enjoyer
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    5 months ago

    Thinking about how Adam Sandler figured out how to get paid millions to go on vacation with his buddies by recording some of the worst shit ever conceived for barely any money. Honestly, I respect the grift.

  • @[email protected]
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    5 months ago

    On the one hand, yes, these movies are products being churned out for profit by a corporate machine that cares more about marketability than creativity or quality. Anyone signing up for a big studio blockbuster production (superhero movie or not) should know exactly what they are getting into.

    On the other hand, there’s nothing wrong with actors in flopped movies pointing out that they flopped in no small part because they are the product of a system that seems focused on everything but the quality of movie being made.

    And it absolutely can be life changing when it works. Just look at the early MCU movies and tell me that they didn’t have a huge impact on careers. Of course younger actors who take these roles are hoping they will be life-changing. You don’t become a superstar by doing nothing but small independent arthouse films that kill at festivals and award shows and are never seen by the general public.

    And finally, I gotta call bullshit on the assumption that you can’t have artistry or depth in movies based on “some fucking universe for cartoon characters.” There’s no reason why a superhero movie (or any other genre film) can’t be more than just a two hour trailer for itself, or a soulless vehicle for merchandise. It’s not the medium that the IP came from that determines the artistic value of the movie adaptation, it’s the people making the movie (and the suits controlling them) that determine whether it will be a cinematic masterpiece or further proof that AI generated movies are inevitable.

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      5 months ago

      On your last paragraph I would even go as far as saying that an actor who can make a relateable character that people empathise with which happens to be some kind of badass super-hero or super-villan, has trully proven his or her acting chops.

      A good example would be “Joaquin Phoenix’s” performance in Joker (not saying the movie was good or bad, just that the performance was good, though personally I liked the movie).

      A lot, maybe most, of the super-heros and villains as portrayed in movies are charicatural, paper-thin, stereotypical “goodies” or “badies”, not actually full-depth personas. Mind you, this is a thing in Action movies in general, though IMHO super-hero movies seem to go for sterotypical main characters more often than Action movies in general.

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    225 months ago

    I just want those films to be good! Not an overpriced, low stakes, mediocre film created by souless executives to have mass appeal. Superhero movies can be great, but they don’t have to be bombastic life-changing experiences.

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      65 months ago

      Personally, I think it was Civil War that really pushed the superhero genre. It was no longer a bunch of good guys fighting evil.

      It was good guys can’t agree on what good means and will fight each other to prove themselves right.