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I would hope that the DNC learned their fuckin lesson in 1968 and 2016, and would be okay with the will of the people and putting up the most popular person, but I’m going to go ahead and assume that that is still too much to ask. 😕
Problem is, there is zero time for another primary to gauge who is the general public currently wants the most at this moment in time. All we really have is the last general election as the last real moment that the general public picked their heads of the DNC. Since Biden / Harris are incumbents, and challenging a presidential incumbent is rare AF, they didn’t really have a primary.
IMHO, if you want to respect the voters, you kind of need to pretend that Biden has been incapacitated and Harris is being called up from his bench.
And on top of that, she’s already on the ballots, already has the war chest of campaign cash, etc. Strategically, she is going to have the best shot. State GOP folks will have a hard time blocking her from ballot, and she can immediately start a well funded ground campaign. No one else can really do that.
Yeah. And she polls better than literally everyone else who isn’t a weird and nonsensical spoiler insertion. So you could say that’s as close to a primary as we will get.
They’ll listen to their wealthiest donors before the rest of us.
So are you suggesting Dean Phillips (the biggest non-Biden vote getter in the primary) or Jason Palmer (the only person other than Biden to win a primary, with American Samoa) should be the nominee?
Fuck no
Biden got more votes than Bernie.
And Bernie did better in cuacus states, where the DNC would have been able to weild more influence.
Everyone else transferred their votes to Biden after Super Tuesday in 2020 so that Bernie wouldn’t win. Biden was middle of the pack or lower before all the other Primary Candidates conceded to Biden.
That way the media could say Biden got more primary votes, because Bernie wasn’t willing to play along with the DNC control over policy.
I hope the lesson they learn this time is to have a primary EVERY time. Don’t just assume the incumbent is the candidate.
sHe’S eLeCtAbLe If YoU vOtE fOr HeR
That’s kind of how elections work, yes.
Didn’t work out so well in 2016. Just saying. How many unpopular candidates is the DNC going to push through until they dummy up?
Hillary had won elections already, so clearly not unelectable. So have all the names being discussed to be nominated. And she did actually win quite a few votes in that election. It was very close. So not hardly unelectable. She just lost that time. Trump has won fewer elections than Hillary had, or Biden, or Kamala. So what makes him any less uNeLeCTabLE than any of them? The truth is you don’t know until the election.
Little matter of Bobby Kennedy getting shot might have played a part in that.
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Let’s have a contested convention
Let’s have a leader with a mandate
Please let’s not just have the DNC pick Harris and declare that she’s the answer
Fuckin hell man I hate having the future of my country in the hands of the goddamned DNC
Of course even typing it out, I pretty much know what the resolution is going to be
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Yeah, you might be right. There is a front page article that talks about how exactly that used to be the way that we did it. And I do very much like the idea of having a genuine marketplace of candidates. We already paid the heavy heavy fuckin price of taking the incumbent away, we might as well do everything possible to make sure the replacement is going to be the definitely strongest candidate. But you may have a point.
Harris is fine. She’s a functional adult and doesn’t want to destroy the world, and she’s apparently sharp on her feet. So three points in her favor. I’m slightly worried about “fine” being the only real metric, but sure… I mean I won’t say you are certainly wrong about your way of looking at it.
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I fuckin hope so man.
The imagination of Trump in the debate with Harris with her experience as a prosecutor and him getting extra salty and unhinged about it because it’s a woman making him look stupid is definitely at least a little bit appealing.
I just hope corporate news has the good graces to not shit all over her for at least 24 hours.
Ha ha. Ha ha ha.
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I’m sorry, but HARD disagree. Trump will always win the debates to Trumpers. As a conservative, I unfortunately have to interact with Trumpers. They thought he won because he talked over Biden. Talking points? Doesn’t matter. Logic? Doesn’t matter. He just has to “shut down” Biden by not letting him speak and talking louder. In their eyes, Harris will get absolutely destroyed
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I don’t know, it could probably work, America is the outlier for their election seasons. UK elections are held 5-6 weeks after Parliament is dissolved. The 2022 French Presidential election was held less than 2 weeks after the polling date was announced. Comparatively, the USA’s 7 months to convention, 10 months to election is a lifetime. You can do loads in 106 days
As an American, let me assure you that having campaign seasons of something between 7 months and 3 years is absolutely sanity-destroying. It’s fucking awful and I hate it.
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It is also pretty crucial to acknowledge that the general mental/outrage fatigue is at this point entirely intentional and by-design, as far as I can tell.
106 days? Both England and France held full elections in less than that amount of time. I knew of Biden’s withdrawal 20mins after it happened. Trump getting shot at a week ago is already old news.
You can do A LOT of politics, especially in the US of A, in 106 days.
If Kamala is the choice she better come out swinging and laugh Trump out of this race. If she isn’t ready then I want someone else. Trump is an old liar who fumbles constantly and holds garbage opinions. I want to see him shut the hell up.
People were saying the same shit about Biden dropping out up to the minute he did it.
Fuckin hell man I hate having the future of my country in the hands of the goddamned DNC
Hah! I so hear that. But wait til you hear what the options are.
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Maybe like Dean Phillips or something but nobody who will get any support. Running against Kamala, endorsed by Biden, would be tantamount to running against Biden imo
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And after a $50mm fundraising day, I just have a really hard time seeing it end up as anyone else.
I don’t like that it’s the case, but at this point it’s probably over 90% odds that it’s going to be Harris.
Biden endorsed her this morning in his announcement to end his reelection bid, so we’ll see.
Also, dead link, use this
So is there a chance we can prevent Harris? I mean no one would have a chance this late in the race but at least they could nominate someone who does not lock up innocents to further their own career
Oh, yall are back. You’ve got a good source on this one finally right? The last guy just kinda poofed when it was pointed out that their assertions made no damn sense.
Your source is a story where someone else fucked up, and she dropped charges in about a thousand cases because there were concerns innocent individuals may be convicted?
How exactly does “dropping 1k charges” equate to “locking up innocents to further her career”?
Not to mention, she took full responsibility, owned the situation, and made the right call to release potential criminals to ensure innocents were not locked up?
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/09/11/kamala-harris-prosecuting-marijuana-cases/
If you’re referring to the weed thing, she locked up fewer people than her predecessors
