Donald Trump appeared to say that his running mate, Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH), isn’t weird because he’s “so straight.”
Trump was speaking at a town hall event in LaCross, Wisconsin, yesterday with former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii when he discussed how the Harris-Walz campaign has been calling Republicans – and especially Vance – “weird.”
“They picked this guy,” Trump said, referring to Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D), who has been vocal about calling Vance and Trump weird. “He is weird! Right? I’m not weird, he’s weird.”
“No, he’s a weird guy, he’s a weird dude,” Trump continued. “You know, they come up with soundbites, they always have soundbites, and one of the things is that J.D. and I are weird.”
Then Trump defended himself and Vance from the weird charges, calling Vance “so straight” and a “top student.”
“This guy is so straight? J.D. is so… He’s doing a great job, smart, top student, great guy, he’s not weird and I’m not weird. I mean, we’re a lot of things, we’re not weird.”
Totally straight and not weird.
It’s honestly hilarious how badly being called “weird” gets under their skin.
Like, normal people are pretty weird. If someone called me weird, I’d be like “Yeah, true.” But these guys are so out there that they feel a need to deny their own weirdness so that people can identify with them. It’s just weird, TBH.
This ticket is steeped in a toxicity that wants to be masculine but is not, and a deeply rooted misogyny.
It’s like the quote attributed to Atwood says, that what men fear from women is that they will laugh at them. This “weird” label hits a little too close to that for them to handle.
It’s fantastic. And so obvious.
One of the key features of authoritarian follower personalities is that they’re desperate to be normal. Like, they’re terrified of the idea that they’re not just like everyone else despite the fact that they are big weirdos. People who are afraid of being weird, or who get weirdly judgemental about weirdness, is a big red flag for me, personally.
I’ve been called weird my whole life. The only ways to handle that are to betray your own nature, or to own it.
“Yeah, and the weirder I got, the more your mother liked it.”
They honestly have spent their whole lives either wanting to define what is weird and/or associating with a set of people they think get to define what is weird.
It’s an obsession with the conservative brain, I think. You could tell who many of these people were when they were in kindergarten or first grade. They could not STAND any kind of deviation from what they (or their parents, etc.) thought was a “normal” thing. So they’d yell taunts at anyone eating “weird” food", or taking up “weird” hobbies, watching “weird” TV/movies, or looking to take up a “weird” employment track, or they went to a “weird” church (or not at all, or - gasp - were going to some other building that was not a xtian church) and so on.
They defined themselves this way. And to have this turned around on them all so suddenly and uniformly. To be fair, people like Seth Meyers have been calling donOLD and friends weird for a very long time. It’s just now the Democrats found some people with some goddamn spine and a platform to keep saying it and not apologizing for it. The Republicans ARE very weird. They spend their time obsessing over “murdered babies” (zygotes), where trans people poop, what gay men might be doing in the privacy of their own bedrooms, what religious doctrine other people may or may not follow, and so on. These are very deeply weird obsessions in a FREE country.
Free country means I and anyone else has freedom FROM their weird obsessions, including their little book club. I don’t ever have to GAF about what they say their Jehovah/Yahweh/Allah (all same thing) says, because I have freedom FROM religion, just as they have freedom OF religion and can choose to stay in the religion they were likely born into.
It’s because that used to be their code word for gay, trans, queer (basically anybody that doesn’t fit in their view of society) before they decided that woke worked better.
They’ve been using weird as a soft-insult for a decades.
Human existence in general is pretty weird. The “normal” state of affairs for humanity is being weird. We’re just all individually weird. So to deny that they’re weird, is actually kind of weird in and of itself.
There is “good weird” and “bad weird”. They are specifically being called bad weird. They aren’t the weird that is made of odd people, with personality quarks, that make them unusual, eccentric, and possibly interesting. They are fucking creeps.
Vance is the creepy kind of weird that wants to spy on women and track their periods.
Listen, I NEED to see your genitals. I NEED to know about your menstrual cycle, in detail. I NEED to know about your sex life. This isn’t weird, it isn’t creepy, this is about SAFETY and saving CHILDREN!
Well, I guess we’re about a week away from Vance having a gay affair scandal.
In his book he told his grandma he thought he was gay and she asked him if he likes “sucking dicks”, and he said “no”, so she told him he wasn’t gay.
So no doubt he has some repressed feelings.
Edit - This of course could have been when he discovered he was into couches and dolphin porn.
Sucking dick? Not gay.
A bear railing me in my ass while I rail a femboy twink in his? Still not gay. That’s the secret guys. Just don’t suck dick and never gay.
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Listen. It’s just a couple straight dudes havin sex. Nothin gay about it.
“I’ll never forget the time I convinced myself that I was gay. I was eight or nine, maybe younger, and I stumbled upon a broadcast by some fire-and-brimstone preacher. The man spoke about the evils of homosexuals, how they had infiltrated our society, and how they were all destined for hell absent some serious repenting. At the time, the only thing I knew about gay men was that they preferred men to women. This described me perfectly: I disliked girls, and my best friend in the world was my buddy Bill. Oh no, I’m going to hell.”
When he brought up the issue with his grandmother — known to Vance as “Mamaw” — she replied bluntly: “Don’t be a fucking idiot, how would you know that you’re gay?”
When Vance explained his reasoning, she laughed.
“JD, do you want to suck dicks?” she said, according to the book.
The young Vance, apparently “flabbergasted,” said: “Of course not!”
“Then you’re not gay. And even if you did want to suck dicks, that would be okay,” she replied. “God would still love you.”
None of that makes sense as a truthful story. First I don’t think a grandmother would use that “want to suck dicks” phrasing when speaking to her grandson, but also the laughing at him and saying “fucking idiot, how would you know you’re gay?” is in direct contradiction to the later “it would be OK, god would still love you” line. Those two things wouldn’t come from one person. I think it’s a cobbled together story of things he heard from different people at different times, presented as a conversation with his grandmother.
This whole interaction with his grandma is so fucked up. Even if her logic was sound what 8 or 9 year old, gay or straight, is thinking about sticking dicks. JD needs some therapy.
News flash: some people who want to have sex with penis-having people do not like having penises in their mouths.
(I’m not one of them mind you, but they exist).
That’s kind of the whole point of that phrase being highlighted. It’s not that anyone actually thinks that because young J.D was asked about sucking dicks and he said no, that he’s magically removed of all homosexual thoughts, and to be gay you need to like sucking dicks.
The implication is highlighting to be that he could be repressed bi or gay from his grandmothers rhetorical question.
Frot’s more like sofa-fucking, so that might be closer to his comfort zone.
If “gay” was interpreted as “weird” by young Vance, then honestly he might be hiding some genuinely weird kinks. Like… Dude might actually be a couch fucker.
I cannot imagine a funnier turn of events than real evidence coming out that he fucks couches. Like we’re just joking because he seems the type and it’s gross and weird but harmless and while I don’t like the idea of people fucking their own couch I’m fully of the opinion that banning it would be government overreach. So yeah, it would be hilarious if evidence of that came forward.
Let me put it this way: If I went to JD’s house and he was doing the cooking, I’d look with deep suspicion at any sauce that was on the entree. I also wouldn’t leave him alone with my kids or dog.
Peter Theil is overtly weird af, just saying.
I mean he did know he wanted to find a woman into dolphins because both were highlighted showing they were his search terms.
The projection is the tell.
sigh please don’t be with anyone I know…
He appears to be referencing the ”straight and narrow” idiom. So “straight” as in “follows the rules,” not “heterosexual.”
That said, it’s funny to see how much “weird” gets under their skin.
That said, it’s funny to see how much “weird” gets under their skin.
Not that funny, really. Conservatism is all about defining normality and attacking any deviation from it. “Weird” is the very definition for not normal. It’s the antithesis of their meta value. Of course they’d hate it.
I personally don’t think he puts that much thought into what he says, just kinda gets into his own strange type of flow and goes for it.
In Trump’s head, there’s a clump of brain cells the size of a grain of rice that’s a Markov generator for bullshit. Trump has no interior monologue as we know it, and no thoughts as such. Just a random BS module and a market-testing one, to correct the BS weightings. The rest of the interior landscape is anxiety, self-loathing, greed and, more than anything, complete and utter desolation.
Follows the rules?
Well, not the “don’t have sex with the sofa” rule.
I’ll bet he identifies with that old Plastic Bertrand song Ça Plane Pour Moi: “I am the King of the divan!”
Though I doubt if the divan’s at all impressed.
Well yeah, follows the traditional, conservative rules that put men at the top of the hierarchy. These uppity women are just rule-breakers who dont know their place, they’d be much happier if they just shut up and follow our rules.
Maybe so but it’s still weird af
Also, donOLD doesn’t follow any rules and is as crooked as they get, and has been his whole life, so trying to claim that “JD” “Vance” is some kind of morally upright person by FLIP-FLOPPING on his never-donnie position and aligned himself with donnie is quite a stretch.
BTW, I’m so glad that TikTok video of “JD” “Vance” is going viral. Everyone needs to know just how much of a flip-flopper the couchfucker is.
That said, it’s funny to see how much “weird” gets under their skin.
I’m willing to bet that “creepy” or possibly “skeevy” might be a good followup.
Uh trump, fixating on that time they called you weird and whining about it at every campaign stop just makes it look like they might have been right. Most people would have moved on by now, if they even cared. This is sad and, it must be said, quite weird.
Weird is as weird does!
“He is weird! Right? I’m not weird, he’s weird.”
Trump: no u
It’s pretty weird for an adult to spend this much time denying that they’re weird.
It’s funny how well it doesn’t work for them to deny it.
Especially when Walz does a good job of spelling out what is so fucking weird about the authoritarian party - it’s basically: “mind your own fucking business, weirdo!” Stop obsessing with thinking you get to tell others how to live their lives.
“This guy is so straight”
That’s kind of a weird thing to say too tho.
Vance looks like he’s sucked a bit of dick in his life (it’s the guyliner). Plus he was a jarhead and those guys are super gay (i’m a former soldier so i can say this with confidence). /s
We prefer eating crayons.
(Former Marine)
And what shape are those? Super gay!
You may have mixed cause and effect here. Marines crave crayons and will eat anything crayon shaped.
My neighbor is a Marine and likes to joke that there’s nothing gayer than a group of straight Marines.
Dude, no teeth! Take the hint from your Navy cousins.
Former Marine
I thought those weren’t a thing.
Yes, once a Marine, always a Marine.
I only said former to emphasize that I’m not serving anymore.
Alright, that’s enough firemoss for you
All the ‘straightest’ guys I know suck a little cock if you get them alone…
People who don’t use gay hook apps simply do not understand. You can hop on and find nothing but “straight” men, or blank profiles which are most assuredly married “straight” men. It can be frustrating if you are looking for a relationship/human beings who are okay with themselves.
We just need a black hat slutty queer to record themselves taking it from Mr. Couchfucker or some sufficiently big name Senator. It’s bound to happen eventually.
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I know you are suggesting that many homophobes are overcompensating for something … but your particular phrasing sounds a little bit rapey.
Yeah, don’t do that. Sorry my mind didn’t go there…
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Absolutely JD. He wrote in his book about how he was “tricked” into believing he was gay for a period of time.
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That guy has issues…
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It’s weird that he’s fixated on this so much lol
People are assuming “straight” is a reference to his sexuality. I just assumed he meant “straight” as in what a criminal says when they’re referring to someone who isn’t breaking the law.
Yeah, this feels like straight and narrow by an old man using old slang. Not that I doubt Trump being a raging homophobe, it’s just the other context clues in the sentence.
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2016 election they insisted that they supported gay people
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Ok Donny, you got this. All you have to do is come up with the most natural and least bizarre reason that Vance (ugh!) isn’t weird. Just come up with it now and you can say it over and over again for the next two months no problem. Ok ok ok here comes the moment, what are you going to say?
“so straight…”
What happened? I wasn’t paying attention. Covfefe. Hamberder.
Only proves that Trump is weird. What a weird thing to say.
I’m still flabbergasted at how badly this “weird” label has affected him and Vance. OTOH, my not being able to even conceive of how their minds work is reassuring. But I love how they can’t get over it. I hope Tim can come up with another one.
