Regarding libraries, this is such a socialist idea, that enriches society and educates the people. I wonder why no one thought to defund them, because think of the lost profits for companies like Amazon, etc. /s
Republicans absolutely have tried and are trying to defund librairies.
So she stole $60000 from the months of hard working publishers and $122 from authors
No, $122 from the printing factory and 13¢ from the authors.
I also don’t pay for books, arrrr
Do you buy a copy when you find that you actually liked the book you pirated?
if I can afford it, yeah
Patron status is ok
Glad your friend is doing well! Send my regards.
She must read a book a day or only borrow gold plated books. 7k past year? If a book cost 20 dollars thats 350 books!
Libraries also have movies and games!
Also a lot of libraries have other stuff you can check out! Tools, sewing machine, printer, photo scanner etc!
We scanned hundreds of old photos in minutes with the thousand dollar value equipment at our library totally for free! It was really cool! Ours has all kinds of equipment for converting old media to digital.
Plus these huge satellite maps of our city from the past, it’s like a 3.5’x3ft book of aerial photos. Idk what you’d need that for, but it was fun to look through them!
Going by Amazon, hardcover averages $26.75 and paperback is $22.30
It seems feasible if you don’t imagine they’re all big novels. A lot of nonfiction you might borrow several of in one visit and not read front to back. Think recipe books, handicrafts, anything along those lines. Could also be smaller things like children’s books, poetry collections, etc., or some of the books were unusually expensive.
Does this include any “library of things?” Because at my library I can check tools, thermal image cameras, tables, board games and all sorts of other things.
I don’t know whether she takes advantage of them, but that library definitely has a LoT.
Where are you where you have those options? Id love to be able to checkout tools at the library.
This is pretty common in most blue states.
Not poster but northeast US in the more populated areas seem to have better stocked libraries. Mine has music, movies, board games, and a whole bunch of random equipment for stuff like research or cooking or building. Microscopes and knitting sets and pasta makers, construction equipment etc.
This library is in Indiana and still has one. My local one, also in Indiana, has one too. They both have maker spaces as well. The one here has free large format printing, 3D printing, sewing machines… some other things too that escape me now.
I’ve been to libraries where you can borrow music CDs, movie DvDs, and even games such as Nintendo Switch cartridges. My local library does DvDs but not the other stuff.
How much money is she spending that just the savings add up to 60’000? Or is that just an error and that’s the joke?
It’s the price of the books she would have bought otherwise.
But she wouldn’t have?
Before Netflix I wasn’t buying hundreds of DVDs per year. It doesn’t make sense to claim that use of a service, even a free one, constitutes “savings” based on hypothetical behavior where you would have bought all the content individually at list price.
That’s the thing, in a lot of cases you’d simply go without whether you wanted to or not. They use “savings” to illustrate how much it would have cost to buy all those books on their own, that’s it. They clearly wanted to read those books but they wouldn’t be able to afford them without a library. If they had the money to spend on them I’m sure they would have but they didn’t and that’s literally the whole point.
Not being able to afford something and not wanting that something are different and calling this “savings” is fine and makes complete sense.
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Example: I’ve seen 1085 episodes of One Piece. Without Crunchyroll(and it’s low fees, compared to buying box sets I’d never rewatch) I’d never have been able to see all that content. I would have wanted to, but I couldn’t.
Or to mirror your own words more: Before Crunchyroll I never would have seen it as without the service to offer these savings I’d be shit out of luck.
I understand your argument but my rebuttal is a simple no.
sigh
Nobody does “talk to the hand” anymore. Where did we as a society lose the confidence to shove our hand into someones face, and tell them to shut it?
It’s highly offensive to those without hands, can you please stop being so ableist?
at least 6 people got wooshed here
Maybe they didn’t get wooshed, they just thought it was a dumb joke.
Eleven even. 🫸🏼
Are you effectively demanding someone argue with you? How Boomer.
I prefer to buy books to own. But books are expensive, so if a particular book feels like it’s not something worth the money to keep, I just borrow it from the library instead. That’s literally money saved for me. Yeah, you could argue that if the library wouldn’t have been an option then maybe I wouldn’t have bought the book at all, so no difference there, but it’s still the difference between reading the book for free or not reading the book at all.
Before Netflix
Before Netflix there were such obscure things called libraries.
Remember Blockbuster?
I try not to. I worked there twice.
Why’d you go back?
The first time was fun because I had a good manager and Netflix was still seen by them as the upstart and not a real competitor.
A couple of years later and things at a different location under a coke head manager made for a very different experience.
This person has read 40 books. They must love those books so much that they would have definitely bought them if this library didn’t exist. It’s not saving per se, but it’s money that could have been spent. They got the books they love and they didn’t spend the money. Win win, right?
Why does everyone assume books equals novels. The books loaned might have been text books or even journals.
Children’s books mostly.
They wouldn’t have spent 60k on books over that time, they’ve only saved that much because the books were free. If they had to pay for the books they would have been more selective and less liberal in the amount.
Spending $150 a week is just a lot of money to spend on books, it’s only that much because of the free price tag, so it’s extremely disingenuous to use that amount as people wouldn’t realistically spend that.
Yeah, libraries are so deceitful! It’s all a big conspiracy to promote literacy and give people books that they don’t even need!!! I can’t believe they’re forcing us to take advantage of them like this!
A more realistic metric would be used books (also reflects the quality of all but brand new fresh books which are a rarity obviously), but you can’t quantify that price, so yes using new is disingenuous, but go off on a rant I guess? I think it’s a great idea, but let’s not kid ourselves that people would actually be spending that amount on books. It’s great for a feel good story though, I’ll give you that.
A more realistic metric would be used books
Do used bookstores all charge the same prices these days?
“We made a pretty lie. You may commence with feeling good now”
It’s just semantics.
“Save” often just means receiving whatever value free of charge.
I’ve not seen it used that way
Amazing.
Oh so just one grad school text book.
My partner is in the Lit world and you drastically underestimate how much some people can read. If they are an avid reader and a long-standing member I can see it. Especially If they’re using the retail price to calculate that it adds up quick. hardcovers can easily be $40-60.
She also has a kid and has been going with the kid to the library since he was born to check out a bunch of books every week. He’s in grade school now… I want to say he’s 10?
$6996.99 per year is $134.56 per week. If you get 5 books per week, that’s $26.91 per book. Given the picture includes a single book costing $19.95, that feels very reasonable. Maybe it’s 6 books a week, maybe some books are more expensive.
That’s a very consistent habit though.
I go to the library every week with my kids. We usually have 20-30 books checked out at a time. 5 books per week is nothing for a whole family.
They literally go every week and she and her husband and her kid all use it, so it would add up.
Yeah that’s definitely where that amount is coming from if it’s been well over a decade. Books are actually really fricken expensive!
Especially children’s books in terms of a per-page ratio. You check out 10 children’s books, because your kid will get through them all in a few days, that could be $200 worth of books.
With children’s books most of the page count will be in illustrations. You’ll go through them very quickly.
Seems like a bad idea to point this out. You’re just giving more ammo to conservatives and media conglomerates that this hurts business and is “socialism”.
They stopped caring about money in legislation when they realized they don’t need to hide their grifts anymore. As long as they keep believing the library is for WASPs we’ll be fine.
Too many people sleep on libraries, they have all sorts of shit from music to movies on top of all the books, magazines, microfiche, etc.
Just got a library card a few months ago. Had one when I was a kid and forgot how great it was. Not only do you get access to a huge amount of books, music, magazines, they also have ebooks. I don’t even have to leave the house to get something to read. Just download it on my epaper reader. Plus: never again late fees because the license just expires after the rental time is over.
