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  • @[email protected]
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    9012 hours ago

    I have a somewhat bad memory of playing DND as like a 13 year old. We were a mess. There was a cliff, a waterfall, and rope. Someone tied rope around himself and wanted to go down. There was a lot of cross talk and the guy with the rope around said he was going down.

    The DM was like “no one is holding the other end of the rope”

    “What?”

    One by one they went through what everyone else had said they were doing. Searching the cave rocks for secrets. Keeping watch at entrance. Fighting over who got the magic stick. Etc.

    Player went over the cliff.

    It was decided that the character would wash up downstream with 0 HP and would live, so long as we could get to him in a reasonable time. Lessons were learned, sort of.

    • @[email protected]
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      185 hours ago

      I try to avoid “gotcha” DMing. It’s frustrating for players to focus on what feels like an unimportant detail. If the players are wrong about what’s unimportant, then give their characters a wisdom save to notice.

      I can easily imagine what a stronger person would be able to lift. But I can’t easily imagine what a wiser person would remember to check.

      • Cethin
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        Yeah, if you were actually in this situation, that isn’t something you’d just forget, unless your intelligence is extremely low (low enough that you probably wouldn’t have the idea to use the rope in the first place). This is bad DMing. They should have said something like: “You’re aware no one is holding the rope. Are you sure?” If that’s actually what they wanted to do, they can do it. If not, they are now aware.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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      7 hours ago

      The mental image of someone securing a rope around their waist, tying it to nothing, and descending down a cliff is hilarious to me.

    • @robdor
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      34 hours ago

      Not if it’s venomous poison from Alice Cooper.

    • Fushuan [he/him]
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      2613 hours ago

      That’s for poisonous vs venomous, but poison is a generic term, the substance won’t care how it got into your bloodstream.

    • @[email protected]
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      4315 hours ago

      Poison is generic. Venom is specific to normal method of delivery (e.g. snakes and bees).

      Swallowing venom may or may not hurt you. Probably not a great idea, but there’s a better chance you’ll be okay.

      Getting a known poison stabbed/injected intravenously seems likely to be pretty effective, but it depends on the mode of action. Blood goes everywhere in the body, so it will likely find its target eventually.

        • ✺roguetrick✺
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          Most of them would be denatured by stomach acidity but the risk of something like paradoxin finding a small route into your blood stream is too damn high.

          When it comes to venom that is also used as a toxin in other species, though, and is a big killer of humans, the crown goes to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrodotoxin which is used as both a poison against predators for things like pufferfish and a venom for things like the blue ringed octopus.

        • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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          37 hours ago

          I remember some years ago that a bar in California was serving shots with black widow spiders in them. So, apparently you can eat the venom from a black widow without issue, and they’re pretty dangerous spiders.

      • @[email protected]
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        1014 hours ago

        My understanding was that toxin is the generic term, poison is usually ingested and venom is delivered into the blood? But it gets often confused in everyday language, and is only accurate when talking about animals. Not a toxicologist, so I might be wildly wrong

      • @[email protected]
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        2115 hours ago

        “Here, lick my knife.”

        “No.”

        “Please?”

        “Still no. Who puts a knife in their mouth? If you’re trying to poison me, maybe you should put poison on the rim of a stein and offer me some ale.”

        “I’m the worst assassin ever…”

    • DaGeek247
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      1715 hours ago

      Yes, but he said it was coated in poison, not venom. Licking it was a proper way to administer the dose.