• tate
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    631 month ago

    What the actual fuck do these nutjobs think the FEMA workers are doing? Looting? Registering non-citizens to vote? Eating the dogs? What?

    • ProdigalFrog
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      421 month ago

      As someone who used to be one of those nutjobs many years ago; there was an extreme mistrust of FEMA, and the main conspiracy at the time was that the New World Order would someday use FEMA to begin rounding up people to be put into concentration camps, and had millions of plastic coffins waiting to be deployed for the people who resist.

      We fully believed that with every fiber of our being, and if we had seen a FEMA response to a disaster, especially if communications were down, we’d probably just assume the end times were upon us and that they chose this time while we were vulnerable to strike.

      Religion is a hell of a drug that can paralyze critical thinking skills beyond comprehension.

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            Maybe I got the right message from it then; went from being a religious conspiracy nut to a scientifically objective solarpunk! :D

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          It’s almost a shame that Deus Ex has the crazy illuminati conspiracies included, because (at the risk of sounding crazy again myself) there’s a surprising amount of truth to some of the things talked about in the game, and on topics that essentially no other game has ever attempted to cover. Ross’ game dungeon did a fantastic video on that topic specifically (linked to the relevant part).

      • @[email protected]
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        121 month ago

        One day I’d like to pick your brain (not today, I’m drinking). I’ve always been nutjob adjacent but the only time I believed was as a kid and that stopped when the pastor of the church my family attended started using stupid math to force the letters in COMPUTER to add up to 666. That was literally the beginning of the end for me. I was also into conspiracies in my 20s but I thought it was like no_sleep where we pretended to believe in wacky things because it was funny. Turns out it wasn’t funny to most of them, which I found out during some fiasco where people were sure the military was about to take over because of Obama or something.

        I always wanted to hear from someone who was deep into some shit but figured out it was all bullshit. Keep spreading that knowledge because it is super interesting and it’s important for others to see that you can absolutely get out of it.

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          71 month ago

          I wrote more about it a while back in this post, if you’re curious. But it’s more on how I got out of it, and not the specifics of all the crazy shit we believed, which would be lengthy.

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      If I had to guess, it’s something to the effect of “FEMA will come in, give you $750 for your home, then send you to a tent, leaving you both permanently displaced and destitute.” It’s not true, but it seems like the kind of thing that would catch on amongst the conspiratorial-minded.

      • @[email protected]
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        141 month ago

        conspiracy theorists will fear things like this and then be against social programs to help the homeless get housing again

    • @[email protected]
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      131 month ago

      They haven’t trusted FEMA since at least the Clinton administration. They see the emergency powers FEMA can invoke and they get all worked up about “muh freedoms.”

      • @[email protected]
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        61 month ago

        I think the people who need to have these rumors debunked wouldn’t trust a .gov website. They’ll believe a random fb post though.

    • @[email protected]
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      101 month ago

      They are pussies who don’t want a real fight they want soft targets to terrorize. Let a neighborhood watch post up with their own ARs and watch them scuttle back to their moving trucks.

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      I remember reading FEMA conspiracies on the internet 20 years ago. The bit I remember is that FEMA is going to use a diaster to round up anyone not a milquetoast “sheeple” and put them in concentration camps as part of ushering in the New World Order. Wikipedia has an article on it that covers the basics – it dates back to 1982.

      The website I saw had pictures of the backs of street signs, claiming the stickers and blemishes from the factory were “semaphores” that FEMA could use as route markers to said concentration camps. It was wild.

  • Flying Squid
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    461 month ago

    People are going to die. FEMA workers could get murdered, but a lack of FEMA services will kill people too.

  • @RamblingPanda
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    I’m way too drunk to have a civilized conversation, but I just want to say:

    What the fuck Americans, get your shit together. I know, free speech and freedom and stuff. But every fucking thing has its limit.

    Lie endangers people? Person lying responsible, get fine.

    I don’t care if he did it personally, if Trump riles up his braindead crowds, he’s responsible. He go court, court go brrrrr.

    I’m so drunk 😐

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      IDK if you knew Trump before he got into politics, but he’s always been really good at walking the edge of liability hyping stuff up, moving from one controversy to the next before anything can stick.

      Our system has always kinda allowed for this, but he’s exploited it to the max.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 month ago

          You’d be surprised. Changing things for the better in our current political climate has proven to be extremely difficult, even when a large majority is in favor of such change (e.g. - abortion access).

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    291 month ago

    I helped people do sign ups for FEMA assistance in one of the impacted areas. Many were older and just needed help with the forms. Or didn’t have Internet. Some just needed money for groceries, one lost both his job and apartment. All really need help and were already living on the edge. Many were retired and on a fixed income. Idiots spreading rumors hurt these people by delaying help.