• @ReallyActuallyFrankenstein
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    This is infuriating.

    Nothing has changed re: Trump’s status as a regular citizen, and the DOJ’s memo only applies to sitting presidents. The DOJ and Jack Smith were prosecuting criminal conduct. In winding down these cases now, they are voluntarily refusing to prosecute someone they believe is a criminal when their role was to do so on behalf of the people. Likewise, the judge is voluntarily abandoning his duty to expediently seek justice on behalf of the people.

    The proper course here would be to continue to treat him as a regular criminal, not delay anything, and on January 20th, decide then if you want to quit.

    This preemptive compliance is doing 90% of Trump’s work in creating an authoritarian state where he is above the law. Don’t just roll over, you hacks, do your jobs.

    • @[email protected]
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      There’s actually a good video by Legal Eagle on this issue. Basically if they keep the cases open, the new DOJ can dismiss the case with prejudice in January (since it will be impossible to finish the case before due to appeals processes and similar), and if they drop the charges without prejudice, the crimes will be past statute of limitations in 4 years, so it’s impossible for trump to face any consequences now. But if they stop the prosecution now, at least they might have a chance to do a concluding report a la the Mueller report just better, documenting the crimes and evidence. It’s shit but theoretically the best outcome possible now.

    • @[email protected]
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      The problem is it’s not clear who could enforce a judgment on him. If DC police tried to arrest him, they wouldn’t get through the door. Him being president makes it very difficult, as a practical matter, to actually punish him in any way.

  • Nyciferi
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    6613 days ago

    You guys should’ve stopped pussy-footing around in the first place. Prosecute him now.

      • @[email protected]
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        1813 days ago

        They won’t. There’s no point. The Trump SCOTUS will throw anything they do out. The only thing that Biden could do is use the powers SCOTUS granted the presidency to round them up, throw them in a gulag, and declare the election null and void. And he won’t do that.

        • @[email protected]
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          Because that will ensure a civil war. We might get it anyway, but that would just accelerate it.

  • @[email protected]
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    If the rule of law doesn’t apply to him then does the rule of law apply at all? It makes it all seem meaningless when you look at it.

    • @[email protected]
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      This just further cements that there are multiple different levels of law depending on your money/wealth/power/influence. Any normal individual does this, with this much proof, and they would’ve seen the inside of a jail cell before the cuff-marks faded away.

      • @[email protected]
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        413 days ago

        Always has been, always will be.

        Clavell’s novel Noble House woke me to this. It’s about the English occupying Hong Kong and the drama between them and the Chinese, the cultures and economies.

        This Chinese dude is bitching about the fucking stupid English notion of “equal before the law, rich or poor”.

        “Why else would I strive to be rich if I’m to be treated as a peasant?!”

        Much to think on there.

        (Clavell wrote the Asia Saga books, starting with Shogun. I highly recommend them.)

  • @[email protected]
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    2113 days ago

    Guys guys…I think we have a loophole. We can crime so long as we have a PAC and run for president.

  • @[email protected]
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    1513 days ago

    This isnt the last word. Smith is working out “the appropriate course for this case”, and the judge is giving him until Dec 2. We will hear from him again, before Trump takes office.

    He’s a smart guy, he may figure out a way to make these last few months interesting.

    • @Thistlewick
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      Nothing will happen. I appreciate the optimism, but you’re kicking your acceptance further down the road. If they were actually going to hold the fucker to account, they’d have done more by now. At this point? Attempting to prosecute the president-elect just weeks before he steps into power to ‘save America’? That’s just giving the conspiracy nuts validation to start shooting.

      He’s got you by the pussy I’m afraid.

      • @[email protected]
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        613 days ago

        All I know is he’s smarter than you or I am. I have no illusions that Trump will ever get what he deserves, but I’ll at least wait to see what actually happens in that filing before raging.

        • Makhno
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          All I know is he’s smarter than you or I am.

          You must have bananas for brains

          • @[email protected]
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            213 days ago

            OK, Smith is smarter than anyone in this comment chain. Are you a fucking angry child?!

            Bet you could do better than a highly educated and experienced hard-ass like Smith! Why don’t you give his office a call? Offer your wisdom?

  • @[email protected]
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    912 days ago

    America: running for president is the get out of jail card, because all levels of government are afraid to be seen as partisan/political