• @[email protected]
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      Yup.

      In case anyone hasn’t noticed, the goalposts for norms have significantly shifted in the last decade. This is historically how it always begins.

      Buckle up. Protect yourself.

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      Yes, and if called out, they say it happens for freedom of speech, which is absurd given that the richest man on earth provides the infrastructure and has a large presence on the platform himself.

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      Yes, and if called out, they say it happens for freedom of speech, which is absurd given that the richest man on earth provides the infrastructure, (soon) influences the legislative rules and has a large presence on the platform himself.

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    Hope everyone is ready for this to be at least the next 4 years of our lives.

    I say at least because these losers ran on fundamentally changing how our government works. In 4 years they may be able to create a scenario in which it’s literally impossible for them to lose an election. Not to mention the effect this will have on global politics.

    We let the Stupids have total control of our federal government. Suffering will become the norm. And if you think we’re suffering now? Well, might be time to pick up a history book.

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      Can’t wait to see what these fuckheads have in store for America, and the rest of the world. Plus, Canada is getting it’s own version of Trump next year, so that’s incredible too.

      What wonderful times we live in.

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    They can’t even wait two fucking months before saying explicitly fascist shit like this.

    So many people are in for a rude awakening, including many people on the left who have no concept of what is coming. This is what happens when you don’t teach history, I guess.

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      Yup.

      Everyone, left and right, are about to go through something very unpleasant together.

      I never did have any hope for those on the right, but I hope those on the left that helped make this happen become fully aware of their mistake.

  • @[email protected]
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    This is why billionaires shouldn’t exist.

    The other thing I need to mention is that is that Elon Musk is far from the only billionaire with a massively disproportionate influence on elections and society. Or even the biggest. He is just the biggest attention whore of them all.

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      I imagine him and other billionaires in a group chat with him word vomiting every time he has an idea of how to further fuck the USA.

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      It’d be messed up for the government to do this even if he wasn’t a billionaire though. End corporations in bed with government.

  • @[email protected]
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    Holding Western stability hostage in the name of the oligarchs, good job voting everyone…

    • @[email protected]
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      No no no, you see, we showed the democrats by not showing up to vote! /s

      uuugh… I made myself sick quoting those jackass fucktards. (I did vote, and screamed until I was blue in the face to get people to vote. About every year.)

    • @[email protected]
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      The sad part is that that also describes what the Democrats did to get us into this mess.

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        stfu, leftist extremists had one fucking chance to stop this from happening but they got fucking greedy.

        now we all have to pat the price.

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          You have data to back that up I assume?

          Biden had polling in his hands that said Trump would get 400 electoral votes against him on the day he decided to run for a second term. Then he held on just long enough to make certain we would have no primary and be stuck with a candidate who couldn’t shake the stink of his presidency.

          Harris lost the popular vote by over 4-million votes. There aren’t that many “leftist extremists” in the whole damn country, and only a small subset of those wouldn’t have voted for Harris.

          The vast bulk of those who stayed home were left leaning apolitical normies. Most of the country fits in that group.

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            A candidate who couldn’t make it to the first primary in her last campaign for this position too! I felt what I could only describe as “meta-unease” about her.

            If I felt so unmotivated, how uninspired was everyone else?

            Also I think the racial rhetoric from the Dems is turning some Black voters off.

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            Harris lost the popular vote by over 4-million votes. There aren’t that many “leftist extremists” in the whole damn country, and only a small subset of those wouldn’t have voted for Harris.

            You have data to back that up I assume?

            Literally did the thing you criticized them for.

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              Best I could do without a definition for the stupid use of “leftist extremists” with no definition. My point is, there is zero evidence to blame this election on leftists of any stripe.

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          Dunno if it was enough to change the results, but I agree 100%. As a progressive myself: fuck these people.

    • @[email protected]
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      More than likely future president. Trump served his purpose in getting his cult to take over America. He’ll probably step down to play golf and have sex with minors.

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        It’ll be the 25th amendment.

        The fun part will be watching Trump and his maga cult fight it, cope with it, and eventually come to terms they have been grifted.

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    France’s military industry is having wet dreams thinking about it.

    If the US pulls out of NATO France becomes the biggest arms exporter of NATO and I would expect other countries will become less enthusiastic at the idea of buying US weapons systems.

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        https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/18417.jpeg

        Here is the share of global arms export per country.

        Germany, Italy and the UK are also big exporters but still behind France.

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            It’s not that surprising once you know that their goal is to be completely independent for their US for their military equipment.

            It includes the nuclear bomb, missiles, fighter jet, aircraft carrier, submarines, even space capabilities (even if this last part has been lacking a bit lately).

            They don’t have the US military budget but they want the same level of technology without any ties to the US.

            It means that they are exporting a lot to compensate for the high investments they are pouring into military technology.

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        Germany sells to KSA and the likes, now a lot is going to ukraine.

        Their own equipment is unmaintained pile of trash due to US having 40k troops deployed there. Although maybe that is finally changing.

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      I wish this were true… You should probably read some history about fascism/totalitarianism. Musk, and his corporations, are just another arm of the authoritarian government, to be used on the whim of our singular leader. Usually to mete out vengeance for perceived slights, and occasionally reward a crony for their loyalty (until they’re no longer needed, of course).

      This is how all corporations function under this system, otherwise they are eliminated.

      Welcome back to the political spoils system.

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    Not even in office yet, and already making threats.

    I’d like to see Europe tell Vance to fuck off. I suspect that if Europe gives in now, the Trump administration will make this same threat every time Europe does something he doesn’t like.

    Trump will be an unreliable NATO ally anyway, so it isn’t much of a risk on Europe’s part.

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      And this was from September so not even elected yet.

      Tbh it kinda sounds like they just want to leave NATO regardless.

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        I get the same feeling, too. They’re just looking for an excuse to ditch Europe - perhaps as a sacrifice to Putin.

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          Ofc they won’t SAY that - they’ll talk about “what a fantastic savings it will be, to not spend that money”, and probably they’ll work up gently to the point of sending US citizens to become meat shields like the North Koreans and so many others lately. But at each stage, it will always be what “we” wanted to do - it’s “our” idea to do it, I tell you!?

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      I wouldn’t be surprised if he pulls the US out of NATO and the UN, since he hates both organizations.

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        If I recall correctly countries can’t withdrawl from the UN without their approval

        Problem is though that the un-united dystopia of america could cause issues in the UN

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          Do you not understand what the word “dictator” means? He told us what he’s going to be. Congress is irrelevant, and if it continues to exist, it will be to rubber stamp, at best.

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        The US pulling out of the UN would allow them to pass all sorts of cool stuff, like recognizing and admitting Palestine and calling for a ceasefire, recognizing the universal rights of children, and condemning the far-right, all of which the US used its veto power to stop against overwhelming support on the other side.

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      It’s going to be a hell of a long 4 years, for America and the rest of the world. Damn.

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      EU countries could start by carryng their weight in NATO.

      Ukraine war exposed EU as incoherent imbeciles unable to maintain a proper security posture, esp Germany and their Nazis nepo baby regime… Straight 🤡

      Vance behavior is out of line but you need to check that bravado that is not support by anything.

      Pay for your own defense and help Ukraine properly… This is your fucking war that was caused by German being a Putin’s bitch. Industrial economy relying on a geopolitical adversery for energy while 40k American protect it from Russia for free. Classic parasite behavior.

      Mutti merkal so good 🤡

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        The EU has by now significantly outpaid the US, and out-supported the US in Ukraine. However, for historical reasons, it lacks certain items which Ukrainians badly need (tactical ballistic missiles and anti-missile defense, to bring good examples).

        On the matter of aircraft, I should especially emphasize that EU countries have given fighter aircraft, but the US has not. The US is currently attempting to get through the bureaucracy of approving a Swedish AWACS aircraft (with some US components) going to Ukraine.

        Educate thyself here, military people use this resource and approve of it:

        https://protectukrainenow.org/en/report

      • @[email protected]
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        You offended a bunch of Germans here. Don’t forget the Americans are sitting in Germany mostly to bomb Syrian kids though, they’re not defending Europe from anything.

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          You offended a bunch of Germans here.

          Maybe they will get in their dense authority bootlicking brains that their political leadership has fumble Germany’s geo politcal posture for benefit of oligarch’s who seed wealth came largely from slave labour during the third reich.

          These oligarchs sold German geopoltics our for cheap Russian gas, they obstruct proper policy vis-a-vis Russia because they want a “rapprochement” jfc…

          Nahh… instead they get butthurt… me country good 🤡

          Pathetic.

          In US at least critically thinking people US ourselves for what we are… A global empire with all the bullshit that it entails. Having to dance around German’s sensibilities online…

          Get a fucking clue…

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        Europe is about to experience what africa and south america have been experiencing for decades.

        Buckle up.

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          The difference is that Europe should be more capable of resisting America. We’ll see if that actually happens but given how things have gone before when the EU went after American companies I don’t think they’ll budge easily.

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            Not when combined with “completely unrelated” tarrifs and psyops from china and russia.

            10 years until europe falls.

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    I believe I speak for all of us Europeans when I say he can go fuck himself while sucking off Elon’s micropenis.

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    The fucking Government of Putin wants to kill off the US defense industry. If the asswipes do this, they will cutoff the spare parts to keep the weapons maintained. Fuck that shit, it’s time for the EU to purchase and use EU made weapon systems because the USA will become an unreliable partner. Furthermore, the US military can leave all their installations in Europe and rebuild them in fucking Russia for all I care.

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    These autocrats have always wanted to drop NATO.

    Let’s not pretend like X is their reason. Supporting autocracy is their reason, and now they’re trying to come up with excuses to get the public onboard.

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      Yes, but they need to repay the rat elon for all his support during the campaign. This might even be true

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        So, NATO had a problematic operation, trying to establish (and coordinate the establishment of) guerilla stay-behind troops to use in the event of Soviet takeover - and the operation went especially problematic in Italy during the Years of Lead, where some of those guys associated with right-wing terrorists. The year was 1969 or so.

        Basing on this, how do I conclude anything about the NATO of today?

        Disclaimer: I was asked to hold an anti NATO speech during a protest event during a NATO summit. Being a moderately honest anarchist, I held a speech denouncing the practises seen in Afghanistan (the year was 2012), but emphasized that collective self defense is a valuable thing to have (a common attitude here in Eastern Europe), and added that if the alliance would bother doing what it says on the sticker, I would support it.

        NATO is an alliance of various countries. Some of them aren’t nice or democratic (classic example: Turkey). Mixed bag, and constantly changing. Membership in NATO is not a letter of indulgence for a member state to do anything - allies are obliged to help only if someone attacks a member state. If a NATO member attacks someone else, allies can ignore the affair or even oppose the member (example: Turkey recently bombed Kurdish troops in Syria so sloppily that threatened US troops shot down a Turkish drone).

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          “According to several Western European researchers, the operation involved the use of assassination, psychological warfare, and false flag operations to delegitimize left-wing parties in Western European countries, and even went so far as to support anti-communist militias and right-wing terrorism as they tortured communists and assassinated them, such as Eduardo Mondlane in 1969”

          Based on this conclude what you want about the NATO of today.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steadfast_Defender_2024

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            Based on this, I conclude: the NATO of today is a mostly defensive alliance with some taints in its history.

            It is currently very busy doing a real job - opposing a conquering dictator named Vladimir Putin.

            I wish it luck, as long as it sticks to its declared purpose. If it oversteps, I will revise my opinion.

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              taints in its history

              Ooh, let’s play “find the dark history”! What better way to distract from today’s issues and avoid talking about solutions for tomorrow’s problem!

              This is me agreeing with you, to be clear. The description “taints in its history” is so ubiquitous as to be useless. Yes, acknowledging the errors of the past is important to learn from them and improve, but the focus needs to be on that learning and improving.

              The NATO has potential to be a force of security. In a modern world, conflict between peers is more destructive than ever and the returns on aggressive action are more strongly affected by the strength of the defense, such a union of forces can discourage attack by making it too unprofitable.

              Of course, that requires the union to actually stand united and the potential aggressor to be reasonable and motivated by the state’s prosperity. Neither of those seem entirely guaranteed right now…

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              It is currently very busy doing a real job

              Yes i’m sure they are doing a very busy job like they were in their tainted history (false flag operations to delegitimize left-wing parties in Western European countries)

              If it oversteps

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Response

              “Several of the operations were along the coast in the borders between sea and land, and together with roads and populated areas. Surveillance, patrols, road control posts, vehicle inspection, control of air space, minesweeping, evacuation of civilians, and riot control were important part of the exercise.”

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                If you are sure about something, then bring evidence of considerable off-label activities.

                In response to your response about “Nordic Response”:

                Surveillance, patrols, road control posts, vehicle inspection, control of air space, minesweeping, evacuation of civilians, and riot control were important part of the exercise.”

                Those are realistic military duties in war time. Every military practises them. Where do you find a fault?

                An example from real life: the Ukrainian military has checkpoints on roads near the frontline. Moving with a vehicle, you’d expect to show papers, say a few words and maybe even show transported goods. The purpose? Finding reconnaisance / sabotage groups, which every competent enemy is expected to send. If an opponent doesn’t send recon or saboteurs, they are fools. If a military doesn’t learn how to deter those, they’re fools.

                How does one learn? After dry reading in a classroom: one holds an excercise. There’s a home team and an opposing team. The home team checks, the opposing team infiltrates. Both teams report what they achieved, results get compared. If the blue team found the “saboteurs”, good. If the red team “blew up” all bridges and pipelines in the area, people think hard about what they did wrong. If they don’t practise, they don’t get to think hard.

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                  Those are realistic military duties in war time. Every military practises them. Where do you find a fault?

                  Where do i find a fault in conducting vehicle inspections and riot control at peace time, from an organization with a shady past involving false flag operations, psychological warfare and assassinations aimed at delegitimize left-wing parties.

                  Dunno buddy let me keep thinking

                  An example from real life: the Ukrainian military has checkpoints on roads near the frontline. Moving with a vehicle, you’d expect to show papers, say a few words and maybe even show transported goods. The purpose? Finding reconnaisance / sabotage groups, which every competent enemy is expected to send. If an opponent doesn’t send recon or saboteurs, they are fools. If a military doesn’t learn how to deter those, they’re fools.

                  The ukrainian military also have checkpoints in the west border to make sure any male between 18 and 60 doesn’t leave the country so that they can be forced into war.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobilization_in_Ukraine

                  How does one learn? After dry reading in a classroom: one holds an excercise. There’s a home team and an opposing team. The home team checks, the opposing team infiltrates. Both teams report what they achieved, results get compared. If the blue team found the “saboteurs”, good. If the red team “blew up” all bridges and pipelines in the area, people think hard about what they did wrong. If they don’t practise, they don’t get to think hard.

                  To me this sound like military rhetoric coming from a military man. You self defined yourself as being a moderately honest anarchist, i suggest you to keep doing your anarchist readings and re-read the works of Emma Goldman and Errico Malatesta.

                  https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-preparedness-the-road-to-universal-slaughter

                  https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/errico-malatesta-the-european-war-and-the-international-workers-organization

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              Your opinions are certainly grounded in reality at least. It’s refreshing to read something sensible for a change.

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                said a guy living under nato umbrella 🤡

                How is that coffee in your posh good? living large?

          • @[email protected]
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            As if the US and a whole lot other countries are not doing Psy-Ops and other behind the scenes actions. pulling strings on the world stage.

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            Yeah dude! Tell them! Also tell them what was the normal operations at the time! And what are Russia and China doing today!!!

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        You wanting the same thing JD Vance wants should trigger a warning in your brain before you say anything else.