• @[email protected]
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    No he most likely knows. He’s gaslighting the people who are watching. What’s the simpler answer here? Well educated billionaire doesn’t know how tariffs work, or he’s lying through his teeth to protect his interests?

  • @[email protected]
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    Eric fails to understand who has the money to create the demand for illegal drugs. Also, a large portion of the illegal drug distribution is in the rural red counties because they lack law enforcement.

  • @[email protected]
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    There is something deeply ironic about the US accusing China of flooding their country with illegal drugs. The next step is for China to demand reparations to all the fentanyl producers hurt by US law enforcement activity. Then they invade, force us to take the drugs and pay the reparations. OH, and they’re going to administer Hawaii for 99 years.

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      That would only be ironic if they did it to the UK.

  • @[email protected]
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    It’s hard to tell whether or not they truly don’t understand, or they do, and they’re just saying shit to rile up their base.

    Not sure how much it matters either way, though. Consciously or not, it’s still the spread of misinformation.

    • Snot Flickerman
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      It’s hard to tell whether or not they truly don’t understand, or they do, and they’re just saying shit to rile up their base.

      Not sure how much it matters either way, though. Consciously or not, it’s still the spread of misinformation.

      Nailed it.

  • @[email protected]
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    That’s like rubbing shit on your face and telling a bully, “Okay tough guy! You want to punch me now?”

  • Joe
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    You want to cut my hair for cheap? No, I am going to stab myself in the eye with the scissors. Haha, you lose.

    Seriously though, tariffs can help (as part of a bigger strategy) to develop and protect important industries. You probably want a surgical approach in applying them, though.

    If any of this actually happened (unlikely), I’d expect the US to start a very long slide to irrelevance.

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      Agreed. Trade agreements probably always need updating and tuning, etc…including things like tariffs.

      Having donvict do it, though? That idiot is not one I’d want to be doing surgery of any kind - on trade agreements or otherwise. He’s a blustery moron.

  • @[email protected]
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    Yet when you bring up Dem tariffs on solar panels and EV’s, suddenly “that’s different.”

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      You mean the ones that Trump originally put in and Biden extended?

      And the fact that you don’t understand the difference between a targeted tariff and a blanket tariff on all goods?

      Also the fact that you can’t grasp that you don’t impose tariffs to stop drug trafficking, which btw are done mostly by honest Americans.

      But to your point, however small it may be here, no I don’t think that Biden should have extended Trump’s solar tariffs, it didn’t really help US solar manufacturing since companies did what they always do, moved to other low cost countries that’s not China.

      The inflation reduction act has a better impact on increasing US solar production by offering incentives vs taxes.

      But you just keep on strawmanning and whataboutism while leopards eat your face.

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        It’s not “strawmanning” because I didn’t need to make it up. It’s a real thing, which you acknowledge is shit.

        And yes, Trump is also shit.

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          Rabble rabble rabble, can we talk about what’s currently going on without the “buuuut obama did it too” shit. Its just not a worthwhile discussion

          • @[email protected]
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            I didn’t hear any complaints about the constant “but truuuump” throughout Biden’s nightmare term.

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                Considering my goal is to get people to realize they’re both fascist parties, “but Trump” and “but Obama” provide me an identical opening for discussion either way.

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    I’m not sure anyone in that family understands trade at all?

    Donvict seems to think a trade deficit means China is ripping us off or something. They also seem to think that China is going to be paying tariffs, for example, when it is only going to mean that Americans are going to be paying for it. Not China. Slapping tariffs on goods coming from China, etc…is JUST ANOTHER TAX.

    Do any of the dumbfucks in the Bircher/teabagger/maga/qanon, (whatever the fuck the crazies are calling themselves these days, it’s a constantly rotating set of labels, but it’s all basically the same set of stupid beliefs driven by feels rooted in racism) really understand that a tariff is a TAX? Again, these dipshits tried to start the “Tea party”, saying they were “taxed enough already” and I bet anything that only a very, very small percentage of them have made the connection. I bet most of the teabaggermaga dipshits think it’s gonna “make America great” or some shit because, donvict, their great white hope, is the one doing it to them. And doing it to them hard.

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    We are going to cost your countries, your economies, we’re going to cost your businesses billions, hundreds of billions of dollars if you think you’re going to poison Americans

    They realize American manufacturers and consumers pay the tariffs, right? Not the other countries.

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      Plus it’s not like companies can turn things on a dime and create new facilities/train new people in response to these.

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      I don’t think they do. But daddy donvict seems to also think that China is somehow ripping us off because “trade deficit”.

      So I don’t think anyone in this crime family understands much of anything at all.

  • @[email protected]
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    Isn’t Eric the one that got rushed to the hospital because he forgot how to breathe for a while?

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      Bet you anything the teabaggers never properly attribute it to their support for the kakistocracy, though.

      These types seem to be determined to never learn a fucking thing.

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    A smart approach would be to slowly dial stuff up so that manufacturers had, ya know, time to build and train for complex manufacturing plants in US.

    But they’re not going to do that. The plants are where they are, they would take years to move, and American consumers will pay the new import taxes in the interim.

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      That’s all assuming Trump and Co wont buy up these factories and industries, and then inject them with federal stimulus money to ‘save america’

      I’m sure in 12 months every major news station will be unhinged talking about one particular niche industry like baby diapers that is too important to let fail from these tariffs and it will be a complete coincidence that musk or kushner owns 90% of the domestic production.

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      They won’t just pay in the meantime, the local companies have very little reason to try to undercut foreign imports by a significant margin. Not enough manufacturing will come back to generate enough competition to drive down prices on most items.