What’s the obsession with deporting people? I really don’t get it
A few things.
- Fear of the “other,” with the “other” being people who don’t look like they do (with them usually being insulated within their non ethnically diverse social groups) and the fact that they’ve repeatedly seen these “other” people associated with traits that are undesirable through media.
- False history, primarily a belief that stems from the prior point, with the assumption that white people are more “moral” or “civilized,” and that the nation was better before things like racial integration, something that they’ve repeatedly been made to believe through, again, heavily biased media, and inaccurate historical portrayals of different cultures.
- Misdirected blame for negative factors in our society, primarily by right wing media and talking heads like Trump, that casts blame for issues specifically on certain racial groups. (i.e. it’s not that we don’t fund our welfare programs enough, it’s that “they are taking welfare payments and being lazy!”)
- “Efficiency,” in the sense that they believe having less of these “freeloaders” will allow us to broadly spend more of our money/time/resources on what “matters” (white people) without understanding things like, y’know, the fact immigrants provide more in taxes than the average American overall since they don’t receive the same amount of benefits back from things like our welfare system.
- Race-based nationalism that leads them to believe that they are the only people that are “supposed” to live here in America, or the only ones that “deserve” it. If you look at how they often classify immigration, or even black people simply moving in to traditionally white areas as an “invasion,” you can see how they don’t exactly view these people as members of their own nation, but rather, some outside group.
OK but I mean, I grew up in a Reaganite republican household. I’ve heard lots of crazy stuff for decades. Widespread deportation is a pretty new policy goal and a few people in the party seem obsessed with it. It’s like the wall, insofar as it’s a big dramatic thing that’s largely unworkable. However, it’s pretty fucking cruel.
So like where did this come from? Because I think if you talked to a Republican in 2012 and asked about mass-deporting people, it’d seem like a very fringe idea. 2004? They’d say “maybe people from terrorist countries”, which is at least based on some real stuff going on.
2000? They’d think you were making fun of them
Gives them someone to blame
They want a white Christian ethnostate
Eh, I don’t really think so. I think maybe SOME people want that
So when is Melania being deported?
What about their son? Also the two failsons, Eric and Junior. Don’t they want to get rid of birthright citizenship, too? Their mom was not American.
Lol as if they aren’t about to be extreme hypocrites.
Criteria:
Nimrata Randhawa…
Melania, then Elon
Gotta start with some clear examples
And does seem to be a prime candidate for denaturalization since she became a citizen on a EB-1 visa, the “Einstein visa”.
Probably cheaper than a divorce for the orange fascist.
He’s willing to put local reps in jail? What about states rights?
Or was that always a great big qon lie?
States rights is only when they want to do slavery.
I wonder what country his family immigrated from, probably one of those “shithole” ones.
Considering he’s Catholic and the name Homan has roots in Ireland, he’s probably one of those dirty Irishman that need not apply.
Thanks for bringing one of my favorite Pete Seeger songs to mind
o0o can we start with racist conservatives?
…except for Leon…
… and Melania…
Oooh! Pick me pick me!
Excrept for citizens
Then you re-define “citizenship”.
https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/4992787-trump-deportation-plan-immigration/
They want to revoke citizenship from naturalized citizens, like my daughter in law, and block citizenship from my (currently hypothetical) grandchildren.
Mother fuck, that’s evil as hell. Imagine contributing to the economy, raising kids and being good neighbors for years without fail. Suddenly pop you’re in a tent camp, and all that that implies 😡
Yup, if this comes to pass there will be a full blown revolution and the Trumpies will have no clue how to handle it.
Did you miss the part where Trump’s administration are pushing to denaturalize citizens? Yeah, these Nazis are going to be deporting citizens too.
Of course, deportation requires cooperation of the other country. Until your new home is willing to accept you, you will of course have to remain in custody…
Might just need to build some additional
concentration campsprisons to hold them all.yfw you realize that Russia will take them all because they need more meat for the meat grinder.
And I highly doubt they’ll be doing anything more than
A) shoving people over the southern border to Mexico (regardless of ancestry/origin) and shooting at you if you try to return
Or
B) Concentration camps.
The problem with option A is that you can’t force countries to simply take deported people, even their own citizens. That’s why they need the military, to set up option B.
The Nazis did the same thing saying the camps were only a holding pen while the people were being deported. But when they couldn’t deport enough of them and the camps were getting full, well, they thought of a “final solution”.
You can force other countries to do whatever you want when you have no scruples and the world’s largest military.
Last time we had mass deportations, half the people who got kicked out weren’t illegal.
So, I’ll take that bet.
The lawsuits against this admin are going to be endless. Deport me…that lawsuit gonna get me PAID!
Well, white people will most likely be exempt.
We didn’t see people from England or the Netherlands who overstayed thier visas get thrown in a camp and have thier children taken away last time.
White christian conservative people, maybe.
White ‘others’ will be fair game. (AKA, the enemy within)
You think so?
