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Summary
Elon Musk expressed support for Germany’s far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party on X, stating “Only the AfD can save Germany.”
Party leader Alice Weidel welcomed his endorsement, urging followers to review her criticisms of German politics.
The AfD, polling at 19% ahead of February’s federal election, is officially under scrutiny as an extremist group by German authorities.
Musk has previously questioned the party’s “far-right” label. Controversy surrounds the AfD, including links to a meeting discussing deportation of migrants.
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Nazis welcoming another Nazi.
So Musk really is just going full Bond-esk super villain with world domination right? That’s what this is? He doesn’t have to win any election so long as he can just buy every government, which he can then ensure he owns all the money, to buy more…
See, this is why I don’t mind George Soros, a billionaire, is funding left wing causes. Too much of the rich class is disproportionately funding the right. Fight fire with fire.
Are we allowed to discuss the many many benefits that society might receive if Elon Musk were in fact assassinated?
Sure would be nice if he just dropped dead of natural causes.
I’d be, with extremely little resistance, willing to listen to your argument. Tread heavily if you dare.
Say goodbye to western style democracies! Say hello to Russia style pseudo-democracies!
Depends how western. For americans Russia is on the west.
on the same day that an anti islam afd supporter committed a terrorist attack on a christmas market even
elon sure can pick them
In case someone needs to read the story:
https://www.dw.com/en/magdeburg-christmas-market-car-ramming-death-toll-rises-to-4/live-71129061
An anti-islam, ex-muslim, pro-afd, rams a car into christmas market killing atleast 4 people so far.
The site doesnt load for me but afaik it was a 50 year old doctor from saudi arabia that committed the attack. Allegedly, he was unhappy with the treatment oft refugees.
Also, it would make little sense for someone whos pro-afd to attack a Christmas market
I know far-right extremists aren’t the sharpest bunch or the most well-adjusted but I’m trying and failing to understand the reasoning behind ramming a christmass market as an anti-Islam action.
Maybe to increase religious tensions? He was very anti-muslim, and hated germany for enabling “islamization of europe”.
So probably in his mind, if he, being saudi, were to attack a christian related event just before the election, it would snowball into some anti-muslim winning election thus him getting what he wanted.
It seems like he had a lot of trouble with state agencies and the justice system lately. He probably snapped and just wanted to hurt people. I don’t think this was an action that was supposed to send a message beyond “the system broke me so everyone must suffer”
One of their supports just murdered 2 and insured 60 when he drove his car into a Christmas market…
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Elon truly is the embodiment of cancer wow. First Nigel farage and now AfD.
Did people also saw Hitler like that before he got in power?
“Oh look that bozo doing shit again” and then bam, the bozo is the head of state?
Unfortunately I’m fairly sure that particular monster actually had some sense of charisma and strength-projection. I’m sure people still saw through it, but couldn’t say much because he was considered a “world leader” with the rest of em.
This, of course, was before the grand spectacle that was reality television, so now our megalomaniacal monsters simply have to generate interesting headlines and do bozo nonsense to attempt world takeover.
I’m legit surprised MrBeast or a Kardashian hasn’t attempted to buy rulership over a smaller country at this point. You know, just for the views.
Well that is the thing, musk just did and not a smaller county.
I mean, have you ever really looked at him without the hindsight knowledge of what nazi germany would be like? he’s so fucking lame.
Yeah exactly
Maybe? He did try to take power once, failed, went to prison for like a year and then got right back to it.
Elon: “Why are they considered far-right? They don’t look far-right to me!”
Also Elon: ⬅️-----------------------------🙋➡️
It’s pretty much comes down to
Do they support trans people and trans rights?
Yes: Woke mind virus.
No: TAKE MY MONEY!
That’s why he’s in right wing politics now, he’s said as much. His trans daughter, who he dead names, was “stolen” from him.
I highly doubt that he ever had a real connection to his children in the first place.
Well, he did use one of his kids as a human shield repeatedly when appearing in public after Luigi crossed one of their guys off the board. That’s kind of a connection?
She said he was pretty absent ya.
Damn, so he’s just going to buy every government? I guess the first one was so cheap, he figures he can afford at least four or five more.
People have a real problem grasping the wealth of 500 Billion dollars. At the Median US household income it would take 12 years to make a million dollars; 1,200 years to make a hundred million dollars; 12,000 years to make a billion dollars; and 1.2 million years to make a 100 billion dollars.
His wealth is essentially limitless. It is that of a moderate sized country like Norway or Israel. When he can have an effect with 100 million dollars he could influence 5,000 elections with 500 billion dollars. And that’s not even talking about his investments in social media, PR cult of personality, and straight up vote buying in broad daylight.
I sincerely hope he and X end up banned from Europe, with a warrant out for his arrest in relation for doing this. Because America has proven unable to stop him. Another country might though if they come down hard on anyone accepting his money and as hard as they can on him without using their military.
I miss when rich guys just bought sports teams
Or built libraries
That shows how good they were at rehabilitating their image. How did those “philanthropists” get the money to build the libraries?
I miss when they had their heads chopped off.
Didn’t his estimated wealth nearly double in the past couple years? He’s got enough money to buy all the governments at this point
Basically just one of those idle clicker games at this point…
Buy government, get money from government, buy another government - rinse and repeat.
It’s like those leveraged buyouts that were all the rage a few years back
Doubled in the past month. ~$220 Billion to $440 Billion or something.
When i hear stats like this, it makes money seem a lot less valuable
Money is completely fake, especially stock market money. Too bad we have to pretend it’s real so we can pay our landlords etc.
Buying governments really pays off it seems.
Fortunately, AfD is not in the government and possibly never will be
They have been getting traction consistently and German politics moved significantly to the right over the past years. Now supposedly progressive parties like the social democrats and greens spout stuff that five years ago was exclusive to the AfD and maybe the fringes of the Bavarian CSU.
Even if they don’t govern they get their way more and more, which helps normalising their positions more and more, which gives them more and more votes.
They had 93 seats in the German parliament as of 2017 and are now the second most popular party as of a 2023 poll.
I just got those numbers from a DDG search two minutes ago. Where did you get your information?
They would require a coalition with another big party, but all other established parties are strongly opposed to working with them, while being at least somewhat open to working with each other. From that perspective, the current voting predictions can be seen as 19% AfD vs 60% established parties (no longer counting FDP, lol). Still bad, but I think it’s reasonably likely that the other parties would keep coalising with each other and excluding the AfD.
This is a much more reasonable take than what you said earlier, as much as I’d prefer it were not true.
It’s the same take. They’re not in the government, and possibly never will be.
Seems we have different definitions of “in the government.”
Ah, I see the issue now. Parties get voted into the parliament. The government consists of a coalition of parties that together form a majority. The other parties form the opposition. Therefore, a single party can have many seats in the parliament, but still not be part of the government, if enough other parties coalise without them.
He’s . . . he’s a CEO isnt’ he?
Didn’t you hear? He’s the new president of America, just elected by the people, with his secretary Trump by his side
Elected by billionaires, not the people
Cheap? More like insanely profitable. It’s like any good business venture: you use your successes to expand.
So, has Musk straight up admitted to being a white supremacist or has he only dropped anvil-sized hints so far?
I mean this was pretty blatant:
Do you have a link?
I’m not going to go to Twitter, but here’s a news article.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-antisemitic-comments-x-post-actual-truth/
Meanwhile Tesla sales are down in Europe 28% despite an increase in overall EV sales.
For the month maybe, but its possible imports are gonna be higher in December for various shipping reasons. Monthly numbers aren’t always good indicators and have always been used to attack Tesla even when they were growing, not to say it might not be a preview of whats to come either. It’s around 15% YTD.
Tesla Europe sales also down 14% year-to-date.
That’s what I said.
Oh you meant it was down YTD. I was confusing you with one of the Tesla defenders who are claiming record growth.
I mean maybe they have record growth for a month or two in a very specific region, like this one really bad month in the EU but ya not happening this year. It’s gonna take a huge Q4 push to not be down globally YTD but maybe they’ll squeak a tiny tiny growth out.
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I don’t understand this, while it’s obviously bad to have this situation, isn’t this the logical conclusion of the American political system?
Lobbying has been a thing for decades, isn’t the logical conclusion that we get tyrants infiltrating the government?
Clearly America has been working towards this for a long time.
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Send him to the Mushroom Kingdom
I’ve just absorbed that into my vocabulary, thank you
A visit from Luigi or you know, a short fall a long way
Hopefully musk gets too close to Putin and finds himself “accidentally” falling out of a window
Joke all you want; the moment anyone involved in US politics get defenestrated there is going to be a whole lotta crazy. The thing to remember is that regular people don’t get to go near those windows.
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Shoo him away you mean?
I concur - someone should shoo him away (or at least downregulate him).
Until that happens, companies that he owns can be boycotted in the faint hope that he understands something, but that kind of people, nah… they typically won’t.
Once this episode is over - in whatever way - I even think we might see reforms in the US electoral system. To prevent an oligarch from buying everyone a crooked president.
As for Germans, they will probably not appreciate his advise.
Don’t the conservative bobbleheads talk about evil globalist conspiracies? Like, I found it right here for you guys! It was right in front of you the whole time!
In case you are unaware, when a racist says “globalist” they are not talking about worldwide events, the word “globalist” is a direct replacement for the word “Jew [derogatory]”.
Huh, guess I missed that dog whistle. I thought it was just the opposite of a “nationalist”, people who want to create a new world order and all that.
I guess I’m not surprised they think it’s the Jewish people doing that, but didn’t think it was exclusive to them.
It’s a bit of both. They (often) think globalism is being pushed by the jews for the sake of… jews gaining power? The reason tends to change from person to person, but the point is they often think globalism is a Jewish plot.
Moderator warning: calling for Elon Musk or anyone else to be assassinated is a violation of Lemmy.world ToS.
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There was a time where the US were shooting Nazis instead of putting them in charge. Is it really bad to wish those times came back?
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calling for Elon Musk or anyone else to be assassinated
Yeah but we can discuss it without saying it should happen, right? (not trying to be a dick about this, honestly)
Yes. That is fine. There’s a difference between saying “this sort of thing could lead to Elon being killed” and “Elon deserves a bullet in the head.” The issue is with the latter, which has been a big problem in this thread. It is not legal to do that in the Netherlands, where the server is based.
Thanks, Flying Squid. I appreciate the clarification.
No problem. I’m always happy to clarify such things.
So it begins… Reddit 2.0
Just hop to another instance that doesn’t have the same difficulties as .world. Reddit 2.0 on Lemmy requires us to be compliant.
Or that user could just set up his own instance and face all the possible liability issues himself.
Exactly. A large portion of the .world user base is from North America and doesn’t realize .world isn’t based on the United States.
