• @[email protected]
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    581 month ago

    I am from the States where circumcision is common, and married an Aussie who is not circumcised.

    Yes, there is a difference. In a lot of ways the presence of a foreskin makes sex and foreplay easier. For instance giving a handjob - most circumcised men don’t like a hand job that includes stroking the glans without lubrication because it hurts, while a foreskin slips over the glans and allows movement.

    Giving head is pretty much the same, though it feels different obviously as there is skin there if the foreskin is not fully retracted.

    Having intercourse is easier and less lubricant is needed, because the foreskin stays somewhat stationary during thrusting, preventing things from drying out.

    Circumcision is so common in the States that most people there have never even seen an uncircumcised male, it doesn’t help that most porn is produced there.

    • @[email protected]
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      131 month ago

      Great reply and spot on to the question! Don’t know how to ask this, but why the need for any lubrication? I’ve had sex with a great many women and only a couple needed extra help. God that question sounds so shitty and intrusive…

      • @[email protected]
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        141 month ago

        It’s fairly common, especially as women age, to make less lubrication to keep up with demand during sex. Especially with PIV the lubricant is drying out with each thrust.

        • @[email protected]
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          112 days ago

          A reply brought me back to this.

          Nah. I’ve had loads of sex with middle-aged women. They’re every bit as wet as the younger women.

          • @[email protected]
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            28 days ago

            There are definitely plenty of women who have no trouble with producing enough lubrication. However “not making enough lubrication” becomes more common with menopause and perimenopause.

      • @[email protected]
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        112 days ago

        Ah, I somehow missed this comment. There are lots of reasons one night need lube, a longer session, a size mismatch, use of toys during, and anal to name a few reasons.

        With enough foreplay anal is possible without lube with an uncircumcised guy, but is definitely not possible with a circumcised guy.

        • @[email protected]
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          112 days ago

          Gods, I was so worried that was a disrespectful question. Thanks for answering.

          I’ve had about 50 partners and only 1 where lube was a must. She was naturally lubed, just that crazy tight.

  • @[email protected]
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    291 month ago

    A bit off topic, but why would anyone ever do something like this to their children?

    As father I can’t even fathom of doing this to my son. It just sounds insane.

    • @[email protected]
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      201 month ago

      Most of the craziest shit that happens regularly in this world stems from religion.

      I know some will argue of health benefits but I call bullshit on that outside of rare cases and poor hygiene.

      • @[email protected]
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        71 month ago

        In murica it is kellog trying to stop jerking off and somehow grew out of control. https://youtu.be/gCSWbTv3hng?u09D-hkDXpLoih7c

        My uncle circumcised my cousin thinking it will mean my cousin won’t hurt himself in the future. I went wtf? What yall doing to yo dicks? I wish I spoke up but the damage was done already.

    • @loopedcandle
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      61 month ago

      I’m a pretty progressive and atheist dad. I had it done to my kid at birth. I’ll tell you I was pretty dead set on not doing it to my kid until about a week before the due date. My Dad (soon to be grandfather, who is btw atheist as well) pulled me aside and said this (I’m paraphrasing d/t my own bad memory):

      Just do it. I know you don’t want to, and I know it feels cruel now, but just do it. Think about your kid in school one day in the gym locker room and being teased mercilessly, for being different, about his genitals. Inviting that sort of bullying [about his physical sexual organ] can really mess with a young boy and create all sorts of psychological issues later. A brief moment of pain to prevent that? Just do it.

      That reasoning really stuck with me in the moment. Maybe because I had my own issues with bullies and self esteem. I regret having it done a good amount when I’m reminded about it, but can’t change my decision.

      • @[email protected]
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        151 month ago

        I don’t know about you but literally no one in my gym classes throughout high school did more than change their street cloths to their gym ones and then back after class.

        If bullies want to make fun of your son do you think they won’t find reason something?

        I hope you don’t feel regret much, pressure from our parents is a hard thing to hold up against.

        • @[email protected]
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          61 month ago

          I can’t imagine scaring a child for life just to avoid an altercation in school that may or may not happen. Grade school stuff becomes a distant memory not long after graduation.

          Hell I used to get bullied for being a redhead back in those days. Then as an adult my hair became my biggest asset for attracting girls (and guys too for that matter 😅). If my parents had their way it would have been buzzed short but I grew it long and got more attention than an introvert knew what to do with.

      • @[email protected]
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        31 month ago

        If it helps, most men who get circumcised at birth don’t feel regrets about it as they grow up since, for them, it’s normal. There’s no loss of functionality, and it’s easier to keep clean. Wouldn’t beat yourself up about it anymore than people who get their daughters’ ears pierced at a young age.

            • @[email protected]
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              41 month ago

              100% loss in function would need quite a bit more than a circumcision to accomplish.

              Like 2-15%. There are cases it’s a botched procedure and it’s not great. Remember priests aren’t doctors.

              Also cleanliness boils down to, if you only rinse your privates you have a dirty dick regardless of having a foreskin.

              Apply suds directly to the dickhead.

              • @[email protected]
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                11 month ago

                Botched procedures wouldn’t be the norm, same as people with natural banjo string problems, but they’re out there in both cases. Cleaning does depend on the person, and maybe who taught them.

                • @[email protected]
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                  21 month ago

                  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8464584/

                  Complications happen. They have a lower incident rate than say, Botox, but the incident rate of complications is up to 5%. Again, this study says that depends on the qualifications of the practitioner, it implies but doesn’t specify the higher rate of complications is for non medical people engaging in ritual circumcision.

                  It’s an elective procedure. If it’s going to continue to be performed on the same number of people, there needs to be specific methodology on how it’s performed and the practitioner needs an actual credential.

                  The problems this supposedly solves can be solved with education. An ex of mine had insisted that our potential male children be circumcised, saying that she doesn’t understand why I was against it since I’m circumcised. I very clearly have an intact foreskin, and despite her frequent, lights on and hands on time with it she was still mistaken what this idea means. Doctors, priests and educators are not giving people enough information to have informed consent. Maybe it’s because she went to a Catholic school in Ontario, but I don’t remember much about this during sex-ed and I went to public school.

            • @[email protected]
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              21 month ago

              Perhaps no loss of functionality, but there’s wide range of loss of sensation/enjoyment. It ranges from unnoticeably slight to almost total loss. Sources: Me, several gay friends, the men they’ve hooked up with, Internet strangers.

              Then there was that guy who wrote in to Savage Love. His circumcision scar tissue was so tight that it caused his glans to become ischemic, necrotic, and then to fall off when he was an infant.

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                I can confirm no loss of enjoyment here, lol, and no loss of sensation. I think one off issues with a few dudes is a way overstatement that doesn’t speak to the masses.

        • @[email protected]
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          71 month ago

          There actually is loss of functionality though. Circumcision removes muscle tissue and mucus membranes that can never be restored again.

          I’m not going to post pics but if you’ve ever seen the glands of both side by side, a cut man’s head is a dry crusty desert by comparison.

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        I wouldn’t regret it. In some countries like the the Philippines, boys have to wait until they’re twelve to get circumcised and then they like to show off to each other once they get it done. My brother got circumcised later in life, for health reasons, and said the difference in feel (during intercourse) was negligible.

  • @RBWellsV23
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    111 month ago

    For me - uncircumcised feels better for PIV, particularly with big hung guys - less friction, so good.

    For oral I do prefer circumcised, just familiarity I guess?

    Both are weak preferences not strong, we all know guys don’t usually get to choose, and it would never be a deciding factor. And for casual wrapped is important and that makes it a moot point.