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Sure grandpa, let’s get you to bed.
Lmao exactly what I thought when opening this thread
“When Trump was running again for reelection, I really thought I had the best chance of beating him,” Biden said of his decision to run in 2020. “But I also wasn’t looking to be president when I was 85 years old, 86 years old. And so I did talk about passing the baton.”
So then why the fuck didn’t you let a proper primary happen grandpa!? Why didn’t you step the fuck down sooner!?
(Insert goose chasing meme here)
He’s legitimately delusional if he thinks that. He only won in 2020 because of a devastating worldwide pandemic that his opponent was in the middle of botching the response to, getting millions of people killed. If not for that we would already be at the end of Trump’s second term.
The democratic party needed a real primary without meddling from DNC leadership.
Because you don’t give up the incumbent advantage in US Presidential Elections. It is bad strategy, and not only eliminates a very real statistical advantage, it makes the party look very bad which can actively hurt the party beyond just losing the advantage.
There are people who have studied this shit their entire lives. You don’t know better than them.
Yes, but when other incumbent governments were being voted out all over the world after the pandemic that should have been a red flag at least.
Even the ones that handled it well, like nz
Because you don’t give up the incumbent advantage in US Presidential Elections.
Are you saying that Biden would have done better than Harris?
Nearly every incumbent in a Western democracy for the past two years has lost their re-election.
Desperately clinging to out of date concepts in the face of statistics is the reason why you’re not a political analyst. The reason Biden stepped down and the reason Trudeau just retired is because polling data made it abundantly clear neither incumbent had a snowball’s chance in hell of winning.
You know what would have been the adult move? Him resigning in early 2023 when people were starting to notice senior moments more and more often. Then we would not have had an incumbent who proved he belongs in the memory care ward on national television. You don’t suffer a loss like that debate and hide behind strategy. They fucked us. They fucked the country over one senile man’s ego.
Looking at the polling, Biden was on track to lose worse than Harris did. So, no, he would not have beaten Trump.
Not after that first debate you wouldn’t have
He is ruining his legacy and needs to shut up. He fucked up many times, no need to add to the pile now.
Trump is his legacy. It can’t be ruined. It is ruin.
Trump is Biden’s legacy? You realize that he was president before Biden, right?
Anything to blame Democrats for the awful shit Republicans do…
Only a simpleton couldn’t see Biden’s fault in this.
You said “Trump is his legacy.”
That’s fucking dumb.
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Trump is Biden’s legacy? You realize that he was president before Biden, right?
Trump’s re-election is Biden’s legacy. Condescending and deliberately obtuse don’t go well together.
yeah yeah, perfect is the enemy of imperfect
Trump, Genocide, Protectionism, State sponsored hate, and an illegal asylum policy.
Not running again in the first place, like the original plan was, would have helped too. Not this botched primary override shit. That’s 3 primaries in a row the Dems have fucked with. Stop listening to the damn donors over the voters.
Actually do someone to help the people, you’d win in a land slide.
And stop sponsoring genocide
Just FYI, he didn’t say it unprompted but was literally asked if he thought he would:
“It’s presumptuous to say that, but I think yes,” Biden said when asked if he believes he could have won the November election. The president based his assertion on his review of election polling. He conceded, however, that larger questions remained about his ability to complete another four year term.
“When Trump was running again for reelection, I really thought I had the best chance of beating him,” Biden said of his decision to run in 2020. “But I also wasn’t looking to be president when I was 85 years old, 86 years old. And so I did talk about passing the baton.”
The phrase “could have won” carrying a lot of water there. Yes, in theory a golden retriever could have won (and, in my opinion, should have won) against Trump. But a lot of stars were going to have to align given July/August polling and Biden’s public image.
There’s literally no rule that says a dog can’t be president!
Or a drooling invalid. He did promise nothing would fundamentally change, so no skills even needed to accomplish that goal…
He had a 0.000000000…000001% chance.
Him stepping aside after the debate really was the smartest thing he could have done IMO, for him personally I mean.
That way, if Harris had won he could take credit for selflessly stepping aside and putting country first. And now that she lost he can just say “well I might have won, but you all forced me to quit” and there’s no way to prove it definitively either way.
Personally I think Trump won the moment that assassin clipped him and he stood up doing the fist pump in front of the flag. That photo was pure 80s movie cheese and people eat that shit up.
Centrist is delusional and utterly lacking in self awareness. Learns absolutely nothing from losing every branch of government. News at 11.
Elderly narcissist continues to be narcissistic.
I’ve never realized how smarmy Cindy (? I had no idea i knew more names than just Jan) looks in this. It’s honestly pretty accurate for siblings, but damn does it raise my younger sister ire.
In what universe? Certainly not the one where all polling data had Trump beating him in a landslide, where Biden was so unpopular that he was going to lose the Dems down-ballot races. Biden seriously thinks that the issue with Kamala Harris is that she was a black woman, instead of realizing the issue is that Kamala said she was going to be 4 more years of Joe Biden politics.
Rest in piss you dementia-addled boomer.
He’s actually too old to be a boomer, just like Trump.
Nothing wrong with the rest of your post.
I actually hate the idea of using boomer as an insult to people who are just of the right age. To me, you gotta have a certain state of mind and actions to count as a shitty boomer. Just as there’s some super cool old hippies out there, there’s entitled 30-something Karens out there that need to hear “Ok Boomer.”
Age warfare is a distraction from class warfare, of course. Not to say we can’t find patterns, but we gotta keep in mind that stereotyping is kinda meh.
A wet blanket could have beaten Trump if it promises tax-paid single payer health care.
But, it would never happen because the rich 1% would refuse to donate.
We so desperately need a ranked choice dem primary every 4 years, 1 year before election with debates and all. Let the incumbent earn their spot
And let the people pick and not corporations? Never going to happen.
Most states refuse to adopt anything but FPTP because it works in favor of the two parties. Governors across the 50 states have vetoed bills or state wide ballots to enable them. It’s easier to win against one than five.
No, it just would have made Trump’s victory even more sad and pathetic. The goose is cooked, Out of Americans who care to get off their ass and vote, there are more Jingoistic Ultranationalists than there are not. Trump’s victory was assured if the competition was Kamala or Biden.
I don’t think this is true. A lot of the people who voted for Trump in the election are simply disillusioned with the status quo, and rightly so. They don’t know enough to know which changes would help, but when only one side promised change, they went with that side.
Trump’s victory was assured not by an overwhelming amount of fascist voters, but by an overwhelming amount of unhappy voters combined with Democrats’ utter failure to challenge the system that made them unhappy.
Yeah I’m sorry no. If you voted for Trump for the reasons you state (or even decided to not not vote), then that’s on you. Stop trying to blame Democrats. Be an adult and take responsibility for your actions.
You have to be extremely stupid to vote for Trump for the reasons you mention. Everything was easily available, there was no reason not to understand why it’s idiotic, unless you’re ignorant.
You specifically talk about some really fucking stupid “reasoning” for voting for Trump, and then immediately absolve the idiots who made their choice based on that reasoning. No. Just… No.
I voted for democrats, because I know better, but it’s a fact that there are a lot of people who don’t pay as much attention to politics as I do. Ultimately, most of the people who voted for Trump are not perpetrators, they are victims. Of course I wish they were less ignorant, but I also don’t personally blame them, because I’m not into victim-blaming. The blame should be assigned to the perpetrators, the rich and powerful. Democrat leadership very much included.
You really can’t wrap your head around thebfsct that more than half of America trusts trump more than the whole democrat party. There are non-bullshit reasons for that too if you’d care to ask anyone. Its completely reasonable to ask why people do not trust democrats, or traditional republicans for that matter. The best option for more than half the country was to try to destroy the federal government.
