Bread is CIVILIZATION

  • Cruxifux
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    321 month ago

    Carbs aren’t evil but if you don’t want to be overweight you have to eat carbs in moderation. It’s not that hard gang.

    • @[email protected]
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      111 month ago

      Isn’t Low Carb debunked? As long as you eat halfway clean and at a deficit, you lose weight. And you don’t gain weight by eating a lot of carbs, as long as you don’t have a caloric surplus.

      • Cruxifux
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        Weight loss is literally calories in vs calories out. That’s it. Carbs generally have way more calories than foods without carbs. Low carb definitely works for weight loss, so I don’t know if I’d call that debunked.

        It’s really simple. But these fad diet cultures we get sucked into have made us all crazy it feels like.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 month ago

          Any restrictive diet can lead to weight loss, because you’re not allowed to eat the stuff you wanna eat, so you don’t eat as much.

          If there’s nothing special about carbs (and I don’t think there is…) that’s what I’d call “debunked.”

          • Cruxifux
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            11 month ago

            High carb foods have more calories than low carb ones by a wide margin. Which is why it works. And if it works, it is not debunked.

            • @[email protected]
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              11 month ago

              Fat has more than double the calorie density, I’m not sure what you mean by “high carb food have more calories”.

              • Cruxifux
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                11 month ago

                Well you shouldn’t go heavy on high fat foods either. Where did I say that you should?

      • @[email protected]
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        61 month ago

        and at a deficit, you

        Well that’s the thing, carbs are just very calorie dense so eating cards makes it harder to eat at a deficit.

      • @[email protected]
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        21 month ago

        Isn’t Low Carb debunked?

        What does this even mean? Nobody that I know of has ever asserted that low carb diets are the only way to lose weight. Low carb diets tend to reduce appetite which helps in achieving a calorie deficit, that’s all .

      • Cruxifux
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        11 month ago

        Hell yeah! This also works! It’s what I generally have to do to lose weight because I fucking love high calorie high carb foods. I also love jogging though so it evens out.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 month ago

      I like to go to the bakery down the street and buy a loaf, then just eat the whole thing while it’s still fresh. I’m a scrawny little spitfuck.

      • Cruxifux
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        21 month ago

        Obviously metabolisms can affect things. Also anecdotal evidence on a platform where you post anonymously is less than worthless. It holds about as much weight as me telling you that when I switch to low carb while keeping my portion sizes the same I lose weight.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 month ago

          You said “if you don’t want to be overweight, you have to eat carbs in moderation.” I am not doing that, and am not overweight.

          If you’re going to word something as absolute, on the internet, you better be prepared for exceptions in reply.

          • Cruxifux
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            Dude your anecdotal evidence from an anonymous account does not trump reality but go off buddy.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 month ago

      What a load of bullshit. Tell that to the Italians, where they eat ridiculous amounts of pasta, pizza and baked goods a and have the lowest obesity rates in Europe.

      Food quality + more walking + meat in moderation.

      • Cruxifux
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        Lol how is food quality, moderation with meat portioning, and exercise not calories in vs calories out? Guaranteed Italian portions are lighter and their food has less calories per meal.

        • @[email protected]
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          Who said anything about calories? Of course it’s about calories. You said carbs are reason people get fat.

          Can you differentiate between “carbohydrates” and “calories”?

          So you’re either saying that “food makes you fat”, which is a real genius moment, or that “carbohydrates make you fat” which is simply false.

          • Cruxifux
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            I thought you were replying to my other response, which simply stated that weight loss is mostly calories in vs calories out. High carb foods tend to have more calories. That’s all I’m saying here. You can eat carbs in moderation and live a healthy lifestyle and still lose weight. Like Jesus man, calm the fuck down hahaha

            You’re putting an insane amount of words in my mouth here.

            • @[email protected]
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              11 month ago

              My dude, that’s not what you said in the top comment.

              You’re perpetuating a bullshit myth about carbs making you fat, which is pure nonsense.

              Now, when you’re called out, you’re adding all these asterisks.

              • Cruxifux
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                21 month ago

                Man I’m just so not interested in wasting anymore time with this stupidity. Believe what you want.

                • @[email protected]
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                  11 month ago

                  Yeah, good choice. Next time please don’t waste everybody’s time with bs misinformation and don’t click that “post” button. Thanks in advance.

  • @[email protected]
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    251 month ago

    I’m confused about the single full stop. It shows they have knowledge of basic punctuation, but refuse to use it.

    • @[email protected]
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      51 month ago

      What is there to be confused about? They can speak english correctly, but they simply refuse doing so due to a lack of respect for the language. Almost every professor at my uni is also like this: they have the skills to follow grammatical rules, but they don’t owe it to anyone to actually do it. This is normal.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 month ago

        Also any language where through and threw sound identical doesn’t deserve much respect.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 month ago

          Huh, I thought you were joking, but I just checked on google translate, and apparently the correct way to pronounce “threw” really is the same as “through”. I always pronounced “threw” a bit more in the front of my mouth so it has a different sound. Crazy stuff.

  • @[email protected]
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    221 month ago

    This is incorrect.

    Butter, jam, marmalade, honey, relish, mayonnaise, and mustard are what make life worth living.

    Bread is like air: a medium that is difficult to enjoy on its own, but necessary so that we can have the truly good things.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      551 month ago

      Found the heretic

      Give me a loaf of bread, and I will eat it and be happy. End of story.

      Condiments are nice conditionally, but bread is always fantastic

      • ditty
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        281 month ago

        And freshly baked bread smells and tastes orgasmic

        • @[email protected]
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          131 month ago

          When you crack that loaf and steam comes out.

          Adding anything at that moment would ruin the bread.

          • Dharma Curious (he/him)
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            51 month ago

            Absolutely! You must always try the bread unbuttered first. Then add the butter for the second bite, but that first bite of freshly baked, still steaming bread must be plain to truly experience it’s splendor.

            Fun fact, while the Eucharist/communion is given as a special ceremony in most denominations, originally the eating of bread at any time was considered a holy moment.

            “For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.” In the king James, but many other translations phrase it as “whenever” or “every time” instead of “as often”

            Still today, (Christian) Quakers take it this way. You are taking the Eucharist whenever you eat bread (or just eat) or drink wine (or just drink). There is also a belief that every bath is a baptism, and that the sacraments are daily lived experiences.

            So, yeah, bread is life, and is holy, and is all things that are good, and yes, I am a diabetic, and I’ll cut out soda, and ice cream, and candy, and even (God help me) potatoes if I have to… But you’ll get my bread over my cold, dead, amputated foot.

      • @[email protected]
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        31 month ago

        Funny thing is, where I come from, a bunch of those “better breads” wouldn’t even be considered bread because we use an entire separate word for white breads. I wish English also had segregation of breads by color, because it’s easier to tell what people are talking about.

        For example, garlic bread for me would mean dark bread, because that’s how it usually is here - but apparently for Americans, it’s usually white bread. Which actually kinda sounds better than what we get.

        I guess what I’m saying is that there’s tons of great breads out there, but English makes it difficult to know what someone is talking about, because most of y’all are eating sai (white bread), not leib (darker breads), but using the word that I’d use to describe leib.

        • @[email protected]
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          31 month ago

          A rye and emmer sourdough is a thing of beauty, though. I’d also be interested in a dark garlic bread- is that normally made with whole cloves baked into the bread or is it made by putting a garlic mixture onto/into an already baked loaf and then reheating it? I am coming at this from a perspective of German breads, though, so I’m probably happier with dark breads than most people are.

          • @[email protected]
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            31 month ago

            It’s usually bread fried with garlic mixture, so you get really hard and crunchy pieces. It can be done extremely well, or kinda meh. Usually you get the “kinda meh” variant prepackaged and superb stuff at like fairs and stuff.

            I haven’t had rye and emmer sourdough, but when I acquired a starter from a friend during lockdown, I think it was a combination of rye, barley, oat and potentially regular ol’ wheat flours to make delicious bread - I don’t remember if wheat was involved, but if it was, it was in fairly small amounts. Obviously, the ratios were different each time and so was the bread.

        • @[email protected]
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          1 month ago

          Bread is bested by buttered bread, better bread is bested by buttered bread, but better bread bests buttered better bread.

    • @[email protected]
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      151 month ago

      That’s crazy. Bread is incredible. I’ll happy sit and tear pieces off and eat them like an animal. I also like condiments, but plain bread is fantastic if it’s good bread.

    • @[email protected]
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      131 month ago

      You’ve never bitten into a fresh, still-warm loaf of homemade sourdough just a few minutes out of the oven, have you…

      Truely good bread can be eaten completely alone and taste amazing.

      • @[email protected]
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        71 month ago

        There’s a mom and pop shop here that makes sourdough rounds on the weekends.

        There is always a line, they always sell out. It’s one of those things where if you want one, you have to get there, and get in line an hour or so before they open. Otherwise you’re SOL.

        They are absolutely wonderful rounds. Just perfect.

    • @[email protected]
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      91 month ago

      Try fresh baked bread right out of the oven. I swear whenever my bread machine finishes, I get through the first third of the loaf within the first half hour and then take most of the week to finish the rest.

        • @[email protected]
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          Don’t do it. Those machines are the devil. Tempting you with the smells and tastes of some of the best bread ……. For me, I think it was close to a year before there was ever any bread left to put away, and my waistline showed it. I did have help, but ……

          The tradition was to start a loaf after dinner every Friday and Saturday. Then id start video games with my teens, until the machine beeped around midnight. Perfect gaming break!

        • MrsDoyle
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          21 month ago

          I got my first bread machine second-hand on eBay, for a fraction of the price of a new one. When that gave up the ghost I found a replacement machine even cheaper in a charity shop. It’s the sort of thing people buy or are given, and it ends up shoved in a cupboard. They are sold on cheaply, often hardly used.

          I make a simple wholemeal loaf every week: bread flour, yeast, a little fat (oil or butter), a little salt. I leave it to bake overnight and wake to a wonderful smell. It’s better bread than supermarket stuff and works out cheaper, even using premium flours. I’m too lazy to go through all the kneading, proving etc; having a machine do it for me is perfect.

    • @[email protected]
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      91 month ago

      From someone who eats almost no bread anymore:

      It’s the bread.

      You’re not going to sit and eat a spoonful of jelly like a fucking goblin, but you might eat a piece of plain bread and be happy about it. Especially if it’s a perfectly cooked dinner roll.

      • @[email protected]
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        41 month ago

        You’re not going to sit and eat a spoonful of jelly like a fucking goblin

        Yes I fucking will. I mean it. I do. It’s delicious.

      • Count Regal Inkwell
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        31 month ago

        you’re not gonna eat a spoonful of jelly

        Speak for yourself mangohead

        Down with the tyranny of delicious sweet things being spread on salty bread which ruins their taste. I eat jams and Nutella like they’re a dessert.

  • @[email protected]
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    141 month ago

    “A man cannot live on bread alone
    But nor can he live without it”
    –That one shopkeep in Kingdom Come: Deliverance

  • @[email protected]
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    141 month ago

    Bread is still one of those real old school basic foods, that comes with a decent somewhat similar old school basic price.

    I don’t care if it’s good or bad, i want to have some money left at the end of the month instead of having month left at the end of your money.

    • @[email protected]
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      91 month ago

      There used to be punishments for bakers adulterating flour to make profits; medieval communities were so reliant on the bread that the Lords went out of their way to regulate bakeries and ensure high wages for bakers to prevent that from happening (i.e: Adding chalk).

  • @[email protected]
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    Yeah but that factory white bread in the supermarket is literally the devil. How else can it stay good for so long?

    • @[email protected]
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      71 month ago

      Factory white bread is just misunderstood. It’s not meant for anything fancy, it’s designed for PBnJ or a quick bologna sandwich. If you’re putting more than a slice of cheese and ultra processed meat slurry on it, you’re misusing it.

  • FreshLight
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    111 month ago

    Did… Did they just make a “pee is stored in the balls” reference?

  • @[email protected]
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    101 month ago

    For thousands of years the peak of life has been eating fresh bread and drinking wine, it still is tbh. For maximum luxery add fresh cooked meat to the bread :3

  • @Fedegenerate
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    Bread is my favourite carb, and it isn’t close. I had a period in my teens of sandwiching everything. Chili? Sandwich. Curry? Sammich. Stews? You guessed it: big mess.

    • @[email protected]
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      31 month ago

      I’m in my mid/late thirties and I still put almost everything in bread. My 4 years old sometimes make bread sandwiches (one type of bread in another type of bread). I’m not there, yet.

      • @Fedegenerate
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        21 month ago

        Alright, a bread sandwich is interesting. Now I love me some bread, but doesn’t the distinction between loaf 1 and loaf 2 get lost in all the breadyness? If they want a hybrid loaf they probably make those. I suppose at 4 they’re not making themselves, but the bread maker… you… might.

        I thought I loved bread, perhaps I merely enjoy it.

        • @[email protected]
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          31 month ago

          No you have to mix the breads. For example, you take a slice of some random bread, put a piece of Lebanese flat bread on it and voilà. And the Child does make the sandwiches. At least those ones.

    • tiredofsametab
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      21 month ago

      When I first moved to Japan and was shopping at a supermarket, I noticed they sell yakisobapan. so grilled noodles in bred. I guess as a kid I would use my garlic bread to make a little sandwich with spaghetti so I kinda get it, but still.

  • @[email protected]
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    91 month ago

    I see extreme anti-carb mentality like teetotalling when the health goal is really just don’t be a drunkard.