So they’re admitting that Trump, a private citizen, interfered with US foreign policy, which is yet another crime.
Just like when Nixon sabotaged the Paris peace talks, or when Reagan betrayed the American hostages in Iran.
I would like to remind people this conflict is decades and decades old, it’s not a democrat thing, or republican thing. America has supported this genocide for over 50 years. The democrats and republicans of now will surely, if unfortunately, continue.
While true, I’m over 50 and have never seen such mechanized destruction in my lifetime. And yes, now I’m woke to the fact that my country has supported this shit the whole time.
They will continue to escalate until someone stops them. Why wouldn’t they?
Israel must be the worst genocider in the history of genocides, considering the Palestinian Arab population has grew from 944k to 5 million in this time, and that’s not counting the Palestinian diaspora. Arab population of Israel has also grew, from 200k to 2 million right now. Like I said the worst genocide in history, the only genocide where the genocided population grows.
Sources:
Even Arab israelis are still oppressed, despite having citizenship. Arabs in the south levant are at best, second class citizens. And at worst, targets.
Not only the politicians actively express their wish for genocide, Netanyahu has actively compared palestinians to Amalek, which has been used as justification by people like Baruch Goldstein.
In whole, or in part.
Like I said in the comment above, from 1m to 5m in the part of West Bank and Gaza, and from 200k to 2m in the part of Israel
Work on them critical thinking skills
More like 3000 years+. The entire region has been fucked up forever. They just have had someone else to blame for the last 70 years.
The whole world was at war for most of history. Also, among others:
Ptolemaic rule brought stability and economic prosperity to the region.[120][121]
The Byzantine era was a time of great prosperity and cultural flourishing in Palestine.[181]
Yes, the region has been in conflict for far longer then a century. I’m talking about the country of isreal, as its less then 125 years old. Zionism is the part that wants the genocide of palastine for the new state of isreal, which started a bit over 100 years ago and america has been a long supporter of.
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You sure got him…
People need to remember Netanyahu wants Trump in power, so is going to make decisions that are good optics for Trump when he can. He similarly made decisions that are bad optics for Biden on purpose. While Biden did himself no favors, never forget Netanyahu is the one who put him in that position.
It’s so odd that the time line for this surge of fighting happened right through the election cycle. You know, it’s almost like if you were to coordinate political strategies with your allies you could find advantageous opportunities that serve each other to the disadvantage of your opponents. Except, that could never happen, right? Right? As if what appeared to be genocide was just sloppy blitzkrieg trying to cause as much damage as possible in a limited time frame.
Ok, I’ll shut up now, I wouldn’t want people to think those with unlimited resources are capable of high level strategic warfare.
I’m just going to link this article:
https://newrepublic.com/article/172324/its-settled-reagan-campaign-delayed-release-iranian-hostages
Henry Kissinger did something similar to delay the end of the Vietnam war, in order to get Nixon elected.
…are we counting “no Palestinians left” as the end of the genocide? 😬
Trump stops the genocide
OOP must have been fucking zooted out of his mind, no sensible Arab or person in general believes trump is going to solve anything; in fact, he will make everything so much worse.
At this point, i wish the best for our brothers and sisters in Palestine, and i hope they live to see the end of the genocide. It’s a lose-lose situation for them either way, but one way is clearly worse.
He’s more likely to finish the genocide rather than stop it.
I’m also very concerned about Sudan and Syria, too. The democrats were always shit like all politicians and political parties; but republicans are very up front on what they want to do to us.
jfc, i don’t know who i hate more: democrats who want to keep funding israel, or pro palestinians voting for trump. Either way, the death will continue.
Unfortunately there was a significant bloc of Arab-American (and just anti-genocide) US voters that thought trump cared about them and their plight. It was shortly after the election when he started hiring the most genocidal cabinet that they said, “hey!” There were a lot of articles about it. How people fell for that I don’t understand—well, I do, but I wish I didn’t. People can’t think two feet in front of their faces. They got on the whole “genocide Joe” train—which, let’s be real, this admin is very much bloody-handed. But that does not make the other option better. People cannot grasp nuance whatsoever. It’s an all-encompassing problem that manifested in this way this time.
us Arabs have never been smart at politics. I’m very mixed on this issue… I hate Kamala/biden’s guts, due to them trying to act morally superior, yet supporting genocide. But i have literally no standards or expectations from that moron, trump. If i was american, i’d vote for kamala begrudgingly.
Often when this stuff happens i like to think of two quotes that perfectly describes arabic politics, lmao (both were said by arabs btw, which makes it even funnier):
“When the evil of the west is combined with the stupidity of arabs, nations fall”
“If you give Muslims 2 countries, they would bring Sharia to the first then immigrate to the second.”
The fact that some people voted for a basically open fascist because of something happening outside of their country is fucking wild
I just hate when they say one imperialist colonizer is bad (Israel) yet another good (Russia). Fucking hypocrites don’t actually care about the suffering - just the political wedge they can use.
I haven’t ever even broached Tibet because I don’t think I could stomach witnessing the ensuing trainwreck of logic.
It’s just so incredibly intellectually disingenuous. I got in it with one at one point (big mistake on my part) saying that no country or system is perfect, and a meaningful indicator evidencing critical thought is the capacity to criticize your own system. What, in their mind, were the top issues with China?
- Too much freedom in the market.
- Doesn’t project it’s system outside it’s border enough.
Ok. I’m talking to a rational actor. Lol.
I’ve had so many CCP bootlickers send me so many headlines about how much people in China claim to love the CCP. Tankies pretend they don’t understand that a 99% approval rating is less indicative of a populace that adores their government, and more indicative of a populace afraid to criticize it.
Part of what got me banned over there was pointing out that Adolf Hitler got 99.3% of the votes in his last election, and asking whether they reckon that was because he was just such a great leader
1 is a rational complaint of a society that pretends it’s not State Capitalist
Well hey, one of the reasons one might stop a genocide is because it’s been accomplished. So they may end up being technically correct on the first part.
On the incredibly infinitesimally insignificantly microscopically small chance that Trump somehow accidentally but actually stops the genocide, I won’t bother looking that gift horse in the mouth. I’ll just be thankful and move on to the litany of other problems.
Its the same with RFK wanting to legalise psychedelics in some way. Thats something that is in fact good, but that doesn’t compensate for him being not suited for this position.
Tankies and trump supporters:
regressive fascist fuckface supporters and tankies all along:
They’re not actually going to stop, the news will just stop reporting about it, because we’ve got distraction-in-chief on twitter again daring North Korea to nuke us.
I remember 2017.
Are they still pretending they don’t support him? I thought for sure they’d all have given that ruse up the moment he won.
Nah, they can go their entire lives pretending not to be dictator simps. When it comes to tankies, it was never about the communism and always about the tanks treading over the plebs.
And then there is the rest of the Fediverse thinking this squabble between. World and. Ml is fucking retarded
*stupid, please avoid ableism when you can.
Every single word which has been used to refer to a mentally disabled person will, eventually, become a slur.
“Idiot” and “moron” used to be technical medical terms. There actually used to be a whole spectrum, with “idiot” being a pretty profound level of disability, meaning that someone’s mental age was around two years old or younger.
“Retarded” was a new invention, to introduce a new term which didn’t overlap with the slurs for a non-disabled person who was being stupid. Eventually, it came to be used as a slur, at which point we couldn’t used it for actually disabled people anymore. This cycle will repeat, I think, without end.
Probably the best thing to do is use terms which are too cumbersome to easily become slurs. “Mentally disabled” is one.
I just had a comment removed for using the M-word. I replaced it with stupid, hopefully that passes the purity test. It occurred to me that dumb could easily be construed as offensive to those who are unable to speak, much more justifiably than the R-word, in my opinion.
Mentally disabled is already quite unacceptable according to some, the current cutting edge of political correctness is probably persons of/with intellectual disability. Which will probably last a couple years before we need to come up with something else.
It’s eerily reminiscent of Orwellian themes of doublespeak and Newspeak. Limiting the functionality of language in order to prevent the expression of undesirable or socially disruptive thoughts.
All of this is also massively complicated by the fact that languages other than English exist. This rapid lexical treadmill that we are currently on is quite certainly discriminatory towards non-native English speakers, because they will inevitably inadvertently use outdated terminology and be judged for it, while those who are privileged enough to be close to the sources of political correctness such as they exist will have an inherent social advantage due to that.
We live in an extremely highly regarded society, congrats all around 👏
Yeah, agreed. I mean… I’m fine with no longer using the R-word to refer to people who are being stupid. I think it’s silly, but I also am not trying to offend anyone unnecessarily. I don’t want to be the grandpa who says “colored” and can’t understand why everyone tells me I’m not allowed to say that. I’m just pointing out that the cycle of words being okay and then slowly turning into bad words you can’t say anymore, maybe implies that it’s not worth the huge amount of emphasis we put on making sure we’re using the right words and not the wrong words, sometimes.
Quit making excuses, updating your lexicon every 20-30 years is not a burden.
Real talk, how is stupid any less ableist than retard? Same meaning, same origin. It’s like telling people to stop calling black people n-words, call them coons instead. Pretty silly imo!
Stupid is the lower end of normal intelligence variation, retarded implies a developmental or other condition outside of the normal variation.
Stupid doesn’t refer to a disability, retarded does. That’s how stupid is less ableist.
I don’t know if I completely agree with the R-word being now not acceptable as much as the N-word.
But I believe the reason behind it is ‘stupid’ is and always has been general term for anyone and always has been.
‘Retard’ was actually used as a medical term for a class of people that had cognitive issues outside of their control. And while a good majority of people have re-used the word to general mean ‘stupid’ over the years with no intention to imply said person you are saying that to actually has ‘cognitive issues’ outside of their control.
I believe that’s why its derogatory now, but yeah… language is always changing.
Stop implying the word and say it, because of your inability to say said word means I now say it in my head because you use a silly other word to call the word what it is now placing the burden on me because you are a coward to say a word. Go to Australia and yell cunt, ya wont even get a reaction but I bet you will say something about me saying cunt because you are one.
Stupid is a behavior, an action.
Rtrded is an outdated way to describe a permanent mental/learning disability.
Generally it’s best to make fun of things people do choicefully, not things they were born with. It’s also best not to make fun of people by suggesting they have a permanent condition that real people are dealing with. (Especially using outdated language to do so, from when even less respect was paid to the people who had that disability)
Maybe read a dictionary??
Sure, as you can see from your link, a word can have several definitions.
Given the context of this conversation, it would be pretty stupid to think the relevant one is the first one.
And I used it as a verb not a noun. Please learn how english works
You did not suggest it was slowing down or impeding in your usage. That’s crap
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Nah that sounds retarded
No, messing around on lemmy while your anus is bleeding is retarded, GO SEE A DOCTOR!
Sorry but I dont sugar coat the word to holdback progress, development or accomplishment.
Total humbug it is censoring ones self.
But thank you for your input
I don’t think ypu using offensive language casually is a sign of progress.
Sometimes adults censor themselves out if consideration for others. Perhaps ypu should consider acting like a mature adult.
Or try and get off your fucking pedistal and grow a pair?
I’d be the first person to give you the shirt iff my backnor part of my meal. And because of my language you assume Im a POS.
Try growing up eh?
You think intentionally offending others out of a sense of entitlement is being an adult? Most adults understand basic manners which you are objecting to so you can hopefully understand why others aren’t receptive to your view here.
No, I dont spend the time getting upset over nothing. Thats what adulting does to ya. Again grow the fuck up
We aren’t talking about “getting upset over nothing”. We are talking about your choice to intentionally be rude. Grown adults behave civilly around others and those that cannot do so or choose to not do so are aberrant.
You aren’t in a position to tell anyone to grow up given what you have said here, boy.
The only reason it’s stupid is because the answer is obvious launch the .ml instance into the sun.
Sometimes you’re happy to be proven wrong
I’ll be honest, I thought it would get worse and not better. I would love to be wrong.
Either way the meltdown will be funny so I’m here for it.
Oh it’s still quite likely that one side or the other will break the ceasefire and then it’ll get worse
One can hope.
Other than hoping, I am donating a few bucks to the most pro-Palestinian politicians.
I have been looking for protests but they are hard to learn about.
