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    I watched that clip on Kimmel. I don’t normally watch but I like Bill Burr. Kimmel got really uncomfortable after he said Free Luigi. Not just like the network telling him, but in a way that seemed like Kimmel doesn’t understand why people like Luigi.

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    It’s against the rules of lemmy.world to call for violence against insurance companies, and the people who work for them, so I won’t. But I don’t think it’s against the rules to imply I would if that wasn’t in the rules.

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    This is slightly off-topic, but I really hope someone films this new Broadway version of Glengarry Glen Ross, because Bill Burr and Bob Odenkirk doing Mamet? Holy fuck do I want to see that.

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    Fucking just make this guy the face of the dnc and we can be done with all this shit already. Just fucking do it already. Pull the strings, pad his pockets, and get going with reconstruction.

    I swear to God if someone passes control of the dnc to bill burr we will skip 50 years of regression.

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      If the DNC is still a thing in 4 years, we have utterly failed as a nation and we can drop the pretense of not being a 3rd world country. (Yes, I know we are in the definition…time to change that definition).

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        The DNC isn’t going anywhere. GOP needs them to give the illusion of democracy. Only they will cede more and more power as they “lose” more and more elections.

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          feeling like this more and more everyday, all smoke and mirrors for $$$$

    • @[email protected]
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      You can hand the keys of the DNC to a baked potato and it would do a better job than current leadership.

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      I wasn’t always sold on the guy. He got a little too cozy with the “anti-woke” bullshit. But he always remained better than the best of that set, and somewhat distinct from them as well.

      After seeing his Kimmel appearance, I’m convinced. Hand him the keys.

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        Was in the same boat for a while, still haven’t seen this appearance but he’s already turned that corner for me. Dudes one of the good ones it seems.

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    Insurance companies are taking the risk of offering insurance. That is why they normally make money year after year after year.

    When bad things happen, they take the hits. They take on some debt. They stop making profits… because they decided to purchase the risk from people. That’s the gig.

    There is a middle ground here that doesn’t bone homeowners and doesn’t completely bone the insurance companies affected. They should be taking on debt and making zero profits until they pay it off. That’s not how things work here though, i’m sure they will be bailed out on taxpayer money or something… but what should probably happen is that they should be given a federal loan on pretty favorable terms, something like 1-2% interest, until it’s paid off.

    At the same time standards for homes in areas at risk should be such that fire mitigation is mandated whenever a house changes hands. This will inevitably drive up costs, but again maybe this is another case for low/no interest rate loans to cover the changes. A billion or two today could save 25-100-500++ billion over a few years.

    • @[email protected]
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      what you dont see is the bailouts when disasters happen. Insurance companies only take the hits for small fires. Not for big ones. The have always made money hand over fist.

    • Flying Squid
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      There is a middle ground here

      There doesn’t need to be a middle ground. Most developed countries do fine with universal healthcare.

    • @[email protected]
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      I am pretty close to the opinion that all private companies need to be abolished and absorbed by collective ownership. There are almost no instances where I can see greed being the secret ingredient that makes things run MORE smoothly.

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      That’s not how things work here though, i’m sure they will be bailed out on taxpayer money or something…

      Insurance companies are typically reinsured themselves, so it’s entities like Lloyd’s of London that will ultimately be paying for this.

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    How exactly is this uplifting? Because Bill Burr said something? This means what? That change will happen, insurance companies will change their ways??? This sub standards are so low.

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      I would say its pretty unusual for a celebrity with a reputation, status and money on the line to be on the side of public opinion when it goes against what the people in power are saying. Its uplifting because his voice is louder than mine, i cant make an impact on my own and keep luigi out of jail. But with bill outspoken and on my team, something might actually happen.

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    That interview on Jimmy Kimmel has an obvious edit shortly after Bill says “free luigi!”. I’m not sure if the producers of the show cut the crowd reaction or something else Bill said, but something was definitely cut out.

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      I’m not sure if they cut anything that he actually said, but it cut to what happened after they came back from commercial. I’m guessing it wasn’t a sloppy editing job though.

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    Seeing stuff like this in the uplifting news community instead of shit like ‘local kid spends 60 hours a week selling lemonade to pay for sister’s cancer treatments’ is why I appreciate Lemmy vs Reddit.

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    He’s definitely a bit of an asshole, but at the end of the day, from what I’ve seen from him over the years he does have his head on straight on a LOT of issues.

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            No idea who Jack is, but Josh is a stand-up comedian who has been releasing a new hour of topical material on a near weekly basis for the last few years.

      • @[email protected]
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        Shhh, that’s what people were saying about Dave Chappelle before, you know, all the stuff he’s said recently about trans people

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          Honestly the most annoying thing about the trans people shit is he just goes on and ON about it, and his jokes about it aren’t even that funny if you’re trying to look at it from a bigoted perspective. Like it’s not good material. It’s BORING dude. Why do like two whole specials where half of the time is you talking about it.

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          I assure you no one was saying that about Dave Chappelle. That dude has always been a racist jackass. He just happened to be funny for a short while.

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            I honestly thought Louis CK was going to take up the Carlin mantle. But instead he invited people up to his hotel room to watch him wank onto a mantle.

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              From what we know so far, Bill Burr is in a stable relationship and is a good parent. I want to believe that’s true.

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            Dave is an absolutely world class comedian, but I believe (and I’m pretty sure most of Lemmy would agree) his personal politics are trash.

            Bill Burr is also a world class comedian, but I like most of his personal politics.

            The problem is that unlike writing, music and movies unless you are on stage doing a “character” your personal politics IS your act and its very hard to separate the art and the artist.

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      I don’t even think he’s an asshole, honestly. He just has no filter against stupidity.

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        Hard agree. I used to think he was just strictly a dick, but his introspection and growth shows he’s really honestly been thinking about things with as much empathy as he can muster.

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        Tbh that’s probably a big part of why I think his head on straight, because I’m kinda the same way in that regard

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          And the fact he can’t get away with it is what I love about the guy. He isn’t afraid to confront the hard truths we all are thinking about.

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        That’s a good point I think but I’d argue that’s kinda a recipe for an asshole. Especially if you think you’re always right and everyone else is stupid. Not that I think that’s really the case with burr (I mean he can definitely be a bit of an ass sometimes but who isn’t) and I don’t have much of a problem with him at all but I think you’re description kinda only makes a person conditionally not an asshole 😄

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      Is he though? I can’t think of any takes from him that I haven’t liked.

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        I do not care for him using homophobic and ableist words as insults, but he’s from Boston so it doesn’t surprise me that he does. Other than that, he seems like a decent guy.

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          What homophobic and ableist words does he use? I’m trying to think of times when he said one and nothing is coming to mind.

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            The one that starts with F and the one that starts with R. The famous rant that he had where he heckled all of Philadelphia is a very good example.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWuXfIZiSqY

            It’s a very funny rant, but that part does not make me feel very good to hear.

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              Was pretty normal for the times. Back when I was a kid people used them as their go to insults. Like everyone I knew. I haven’t heard him say those slurs recently. Times change, people grow.

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                “For the times?” That happened in 2006. Times had changed long before that.

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        He’s definitely gone into territory that I think some people find “offensive”, but I personally find to just be blunt. Maybe it’s the old school Bostonian vibe, which I understand as a Bostonian, and some people not from the region don’t necessarily.

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          He’s actually a really good example of how to do shock humor without being a bigot. He doesn’t really punch down, and if he’s doing like race jokes, it’s usually through the lens of “look at how stupid this racist mfer is.”

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          So? People get so hung up on their right to remain unoffended. That’s not reality - it’s hiding. Our collective thin skin is getting shredded. We all need a dose of “wake the fuck up and smell the bullshit” more often.

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            Seriously I think it’s possibly a psy-op to make the left weaker in North America. Or at least to make leftists seem weak. At any rate it’s working, look at what’s happening to our political landscape as a result.

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              I mean, that doesn’t feel farfetched.

              By the way, my friend had a hardcore band called “Crucifux” in Tampa Bay, FL area about 15 years ago. Your handle made me double-take.

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                Haha I know. I love hardcore, and found out about them from googling my own gamer tag when I was like 17

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                  Hilarious. I played music with the drummer, Andy. Small world.

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          For every American who gets offended at someone from Boston there’s a Canadian that isn’t a thin-skinned little bitch. ;) (okay maybe not a perfect metaphor but after the day I’ve had I’m not workshopping this one)

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    Always fun when Bill Burr makes a talk show host visibly uncomfortable. I’m worried they’ll stop having him on altogether. Supporting Luigi might be crossing the line. I dunno how Jimmy Kimmel feels about Luigi Mangione, but I know how the people who sign his paychecks feel.

    If they can’t get people to hate Luigi, they’ll shift to getting people to forget about him.

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      I don’t watch Jimmy Kimmel, is he just a bad interviewer? Cuz he sucked. Even the introduction was bad.

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        He was the guy what did the Man Show, right? The one that featured chicks on trampolines?

        He’s gone downhill

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          The show that kept Joe Rogan in the public eye between fear factor and his podcast? Yeah, fuck that noise.

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            I think he did it during Fear Factor. He was the second grouping of hosts with Doug Stanhope after Corolla and Kimmel left

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              Correct, however at the time man show was fine. It was ruined by Joe and Doug. They made that show completely unwatchable. Their comedy just sucked ass compared to Jimmy and Adam.

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            I dunno what this Joe Rogan is, but it sounds like something you’d put on a bald head to make it grow hair

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        He doesn’t really interview, it’s just setting up four panel jokes. He uses the same vibe as his opening monolog

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    He was going off about CEOs being the new mafia, just mafia supported by the law this time around. And speculating on whacking between CEOs, like Walmart vs Target and such, pre Luigi. And then Luigi happened and he’s like: well yeah.

    Really, it all fit with his pre Luigi narrative.

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    And the only comment on that article a bot decrying the horrible cold blooded murder and that a figure as visible as Burr should invoke the name. We’re all cheering the murder you fucks and no amount of pissing on us and telling us its raining will make us stop.

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    Sometimes I’m not sure if I’m a Bill Burr fan, but then he does shit like this and I go all Gaga for him.

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      His comedy is pretty good. Not so much his old stuff but his newer stuff is amazing. Like his comedy or not, he’s always had a “fuck you” attitude about this kinda stuff which is why I respect him so much. The only comedian I know that calls shit like it is and calls out other people on their bullshit without giving a shit about what he says. He’s like the voice in the back of my head when I’m pissed off at something incarnate.

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        I followed him back on O&A and watched his small bits to his Breaking Bad stuff and everything… seen him like 5 times live. I love his body of work … old to new.

        His “fuck you” attitude is one that makes me wish I’d have a friend like Bill calling my ass out. I love it.

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          His roles on The Mandalorian and Reservation Dogs were both very different and very good. On the Mandalorian he plays a former soldier who is basically Bill Burr in space. On Reservation Dogs he plays a high school basketball coach with a troubled daughter.

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      He doesn’t say much that wasn’t cut out

      My brain hurts trying to make sense of the negations in this conundrum. Thanks for that. 😞

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        It confused me a little too, removing both n’t-s makes it easier to understand.

        He does say much that was cut out.