People who like Rick and Morty.
People who look up to Rick.
People who like American Psycho because it is a brilliant satire of the sociopathy of the elite.
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People who like American Psycho because ‘I’m just like Patrick Bateman, fr fr.’
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Its the same with Fight Club, Falling Down, Taxi Driver…
Its possible to enjoy and be a fan of these movies without actually idolizing a psycopath… maybe you sympathize or empathize with them to varying degrees, but you don’t hold them up as idealized character role models, you realize these are all very flawed, often tragic characters who … basically become villains in (semi?) plausible ways, that showcase how brutal and broken society is…
But, so many people do actually idolize these trainwreck characters that now we’ve spent basically the entire era of internet based cultural dominance/exchange where any kind of admiration of these ‘cautionary morality tale about a disaffected man’ type movies is just immediately, often instantly viewed as a red flag by a whole lot of people.
American Psycho satirization of the cold and unfeeling aspects of 1980’s yuppie culture. Bateman might have hallucinated the entire thing and Paul Owen really could have been in London given how frequently Bateman is mistaken for another person by colleagues. It’s not about the sociopathy of the rich.
I mean… your plot notes are on point… but ‘yuppie’ derives from ‘YUP’, which means ‘Young Urban Professional’.
At the time, the 80s and 90s, yuppie was synonymous with … the people making huge incomes in white collar jobs, in large corporations, by being cutthroat businessmen, usually earning their keep by orchestrating deals, layoffs, mergers, downsizing/rightsizing, etc… stuff that was good for the shareholders and execs, but bad for pretty much everyone else.
Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying?
I don’t see how you think yuppie culture and sociopathy of the rich… are any different, I don’t get why you are drawing a distinction there, or what the boundary is.
Yuppie culture is sociopathic, and the young rich people of the era … were largely yuppies.
Bateman is a yuppie, he is a rich person, and he is a violent sociopath/psycopath… or at least, he seems to think he is… he may just be utterly delusional.
The way I see it is … he is a hollow person, a husk, with no actual values, but is a brilliant actor, acting out the fake corporate/socialite norms… which are fundamentally built on a kind of sociopathy: Nothing matters other than the pursuit of profit and status, superiority in all aspects is the goal, any means to achieve this are justified.
Thus he is the uber yuppie, the ur yuppie, the ‘perfect’ yuppie… and he cannot maintain sanity as a ‘perfect’ yuppie.
When Bateman snaps, we’re seeing the violence that is normally done indirectly, sanitized through the layers of corporate governance and influence upon government and society as a whole… all of the complications of politics and economics are removed, and we see a disintermediated, rich corporate mad man in a suit (or his birthday suit) just directly doing the violence that is normally obfuscated and done via societal systems and layers of bureacracy.
You show the truth with a lie, kind of idea.
Maybe a more succinct way of saying what I’m trying to say:
Yuppie culture was the culture of the rich, or at least a prominent subculture of a prominent subset of the rich, in the 80s and 90s. Bateman is basically a cariacature of this, thus the movie is a character study of a person who represents an entire class… of wealthy people. (We also get to just see the culture outright via Bateman’s interactions with others in that culture)
- Sociopathy wasn’t common with yuppies. Seriously, sociopathy is not that common despite what the internet leads you to believe. Yuppies weren’t sociopathic. They were materialistic yes but they weren’t manipulative narcissists with no emotional capacity for empathy.
2)Bateman might be a psychotic killer OR it is all a delusion. Multiple events in the book happen that make it pretty clear that Bateman might just be crazy and bored and isn’t killing people. That bit about Paul Owen being seen alive in London could be real because just like people think Bateman is Halberstam people also mistake him for Paul Owen. This is because everyone is so shallow and replaceable that no one really knows anyone so it is heavily implied Bateman might just be crazy like his lawyer tells him.
Where we differ is I don’t think anyone other than Bateman and maybe Owen show signs of sociopathy. The average yuppie was no different than the average bro of today. They just had better whiskey and worse haircuts.
To people who like American psycho: read the book and get cured, it’s one of the worst books I have ever read (long story short, I only had that one book over like months, so I finished it. A scoolkid could have written it + some unnecessary ultra violence, IMO).
Rick and Morty bangs and had some subtle anti-capitalist elements to it.
But yeah Rick is a nihilist with severe empathy problems. Although he is showing some very minor character development.
Rick is a narcissist. He’s a pretty good example of one.
Honestly all the characters in that show suck. Except that one girl morty time-looped himself out of marrying. She seemed normal.
Oh and Planetina. There is only one solution to earth’s pollution.
I’ve only seen a few episodes, but isn’t that part of the joke of the show?
Weirdly, I haven’t seen a lot of people who think The Gang in It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia are cool role models. I guess the difference might be that Rick is canonically a genius where The Gang are canonically morons.
As far as I know, yes. If it’s not, then I should probably stop watching…
But they get pretty self-aware at times, they don’t make any of the characters really look like they’re doing the “right thing” for too long before they curb back around.
I quite liked her methods tbh. Morty was just not willing to solve pollution.
He wasn’t willing to do the things that need to be done to save the biosphere for as many creatures as possible.
Is there a big connection between them and “Dark Enlightenment” chuds or what?
They’ll glom onto any super smart asshole character and pretend that’s what Elmo is like.
I love Rick and Morty but all the main characters are not good people. I don’t blame Morty or Summer since what else can you expect growing up surrounded by that family?
I admire his dedication to his wife. I’ve never cared about anybody that much.
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I really liked that after uncle slows death, they had this scene from his wife that shows the value in moving on. Not that she didn’t care and love him - in fact you still see his picture at the end. It’s such a good foil to how Rick approached things. They’re happy too.
In hindsight, it makes sense that an edgy series like Rick and Morty was originally written by a serial harasser. And people insist on separating the art from the artist, now THAT is a red flag for me
I am interested in survivalism but it seems like most survivalists are a bunch of god-fearing crazy racist motherfuckers.
I remember when survivalists were predominately hippie types who feared a right-wing generated apocalypse - like corporatism collapsing the economy, or warmongers starting WW3. The back-to-nature ones learned self-sufficient organic farming, the tech ones bought nitrogen-filled plastic bins of grain, and they all grew weed. Then when rednecks joined the club it became more about homemade ammunition and defending the perimeter.
Whenever right-wingers show the slightest interest in anything the left-wingers flee with their tails between their legs.
Sadly there’s some truth to that. Moral perfectionism is so common among liberals, publicly expressing your interests can be a minefield.
left tends to be pro-social for solutions, right tends to be pro-violence for solutions, so… yeah…
I think hippie ‘survivalist’ material can be foundbunder ‘homesteading’ more easily. Still a portion of exclusionary-supremacists and superstitious-dogmatics, but somewhat fewer in my experience. More sustainable growing techniques, with the guns chapter further back in the book. More mutual aid networking, less barrel frotting.
I clearly relate more to this first batch than the second one but for me it is about being able to survive in Nature no matter why. I do not fear a right-wing apocalypse either, I only want to survive no matter what happens.
Good luck with surviving no matter what happens. Most of us are highly dependent on services we take for granted - reliable electricity and water, stores stocked with food, open roads, a monetary system, communications, nearby doctors, firefighters, police, etc. As in, “What have the Romans ever done for us?”
If you go far enough left or right, you end up in the same spot.
If you insist on putting everything on a one dimensional scale, you come up with stupid, obviously false conclusions.
Hitler was 🤏 this close to a classless, stateless, moneyless society. /s
maybe the best part of being trans is that your trans friend group can buy a ranch in the mountains and stock up on guns and alpaca and you never get mistaken for a race war wisher
Guns and Alpacas, the two most precious resources in the world! We should combine them a a single element since an Alpaca without a gun is totally useless! /s
Brings a new meaning to ‘pack animal’
Bushcrafting content has a fine line when it pushes over into doomsday prepper. I can get the ideas of having a bit of food/water stocked up for a normal emergency. But if you are preparing industrial quantities of things to survive for years in a bunker you should seek help.
“prepper” vs “Prepper” with a capital “P”.
The first learns and practices actual useful skills – gardening, food preservation, repairing their own things, etc. The later are dorks buying a ton of unnecessary shit shilled by right-wing influencers cosplaying as “entirely self-sufficient”.
Gardening, sewing, soldering, and communication are the most important doomsday skills
Well if you just get a commercial freeze dryer, generator and alcohol fuel distillation setup you can be completely self sufficient!
Freeze drying on a large scale takes a LOT of time. You need to be ready to treat food prep like a full time job for it to make serious financial sense.
I would think other preservation methods are easier to go with really. Salt, dehydrate, smoke, pickle, fermemt.
For many things, yes. Canning can be done for some things (although you want to be really sure about what you’re doing; you can kill yourself pretty fast with botulism if you do it wrong), freezing is good for other things (although not great if you have power outages). If you’re trying to live off the land, you do need to be aware that certain parasites are not adequately dealt with by salt curing, smoking, dehydration, or even freezing; feral pigs and bear both have trichinosis, and must be thoroughly cooked to be safe. In wild populations, the parasite has been demonstrated to be highly resistant to freezing, etc.
Dried, etc. things should be vacuum sealed with desiccants and oxygen absorbers for maximum preservation. I test the e.g. apples that I’ve dried every so often (I live in an area with a lot of orchards; apples can be very cheap when you buy them by the bushel directly from the orchard), and as of this year, the apples I dried six years ago are still good.
One thing that freeze drying can be very good for is complete meals. E.g., if you make a stock pot full of jambalaya, you can freeze dry it in individual portion sizes, vacuum seal it in 9mil mylar, and you’ve got a meal that should be good for 10+ years.
For anyone that’s seriously considering a freeze dryer, check this video out. Yeah, I still want one, but seriously, it can take a lot to make it practical. I’m not enamored of the control system that they use; a blended automatic and manual control system would probably work better than something that supposedly takes the guesswork out of it for you.
I think I would preserve apples in the form of cider. Perhaps fortified with some apple brandy to help it last longer.
But really isn’t it kinda unnecessary to preserve most things for multiple years?
I will point out that we’re right now entering a time when basic foodstuffs are going to become very expensive, and a lot of day to day items are likely going to rise sharply in price, or become unavailable. Having industrial amounts of these day-to-day things is a hedge against that.
California’s lost their water reserves for the year and potash is being tariffed.
Water is the hard one; the amount of water that people go through in a day, even in desert communities where people are very aware of the amount of water they consume–drinking, cooking, cleaning–is quite high. Storing enough for a full year for a household of four is functionally impossible. If I lived in California, I’d be looking for high-volume desalination systems.
Then buy grains, they already come in a form you can store long term. Honey, jam and tinned goods too.
'Course, the good news about the reciprocal tariffs is that soybeans are gonna be very cheap domestically. You can make a very functional flour out of soybeans with a good grain mill/stone grinder, although you’ll want to add gluten to it if you’re going to try to make bread. And soy is very high in proteins (compared to most grain flour), so you can live off it when other protein sources are too expensive.
Man, I was really invested in that in like 2016 but in 2018 was the election of Bolsonaro. Some time before, during the election and until now every fucking content creator or community around this hobby became a cesspool of right wing dickheads worshipping this fascist.
As someone from a small town in the pacific northwest, it feels like they always have been. It was just a case of the quiet part not being said out loud or them masking it enough those with lower exposure didn’t see it.
I drive a pickup, grew up hunting and fishing and I’m tall, pretty thick, tattooed all to hell and bearded… the amount of “hell yeah brother” followed by some vial, racist, homo/transphobic shit I have said to me is staggering. The moment of pushback has become a high for me. I’m almost baiting them from a conversation about tree stands and elk piss formulas into some fucked statement about trans athlete’s just too feel something.
That said, it isn’t all of us so I don’t want to gate keep survivalism and general outdoorsiness. Always willing to teach a flytie, how to dig a shit hole and the easiest way to catch water with a tarp.
One thing I get a trill from when I receive these kinds of comments is to act like I do not get what the person means so, as an exemple, they need to go from a veiled reference to “darker people” to an outright racist statement. Then, I keep on acting like I don’t understand what they mean, This is often very funny although sad at the same time but having someone trying to explain their racist/*phobic joke while they realize how much they need to expose themselves is pretty fun to me.
Heck yes friend. This is also a fantastic strategy. Likely the same perverse curiosity that makes Clint Eastwoods rants compelling in Gran Turino. Standing there making mental notes about what the hell that means but knowing its foul.
Same boat here (PNW big bearded dude). I actually got handed a 'White Pride’s card last week. Before I had the full beard nobody ever said racists shit to me unless it was accusatory. Now they think I’m on their side.
Doesn’t help that I’m into survivalism, permaculture, and off-grid living. I’m constantly fighting the algorithm that wants to feed me ultra conservative bullshit.
The algorithm is insane for that crap. I’m in a band with a bunch of other 40 something dudes and the shit they get in their feeds is wild. I’m too paranoid to raw dog the Internet or have conventional social media so I miss most of the hateful crap. The screen shots they share in the group chat are wild.
One of the guys owns a roofing business and that’s likely the most toxic feed I’ve seen. Its a miracle he isn’t fully maga-activated.
The prepper response to covid absolutely broke my heart. I already had an emergency pandemic kit good to go and my whole family in N95 masks from day 1 (in America). We had plenty of canned food and water. I thought, “This is it. We’re ready for this.” And then all the others sided with the fucking virus. 🤮😭
Dude. This. I grew up camping. I am into bushcraft, survival stuff too, and every interesting survival youtuber seems like a ticking time bomb, if not already openly right wing crazy.
History is kind of the opposite. When someone says they like history I’ll get excited and ask what period is their favorite. If they say “Romans” without any qualifiers like Early Republic or Late Eastern Empire, I get a bad feeling and they usually follow up with “and WWII”
my answer is “mesopotamian” because I like their goofy little sculptures
archeology is cool, humans are just little goblins that really like to live on hills for some reasonThem dudes is wild though! They achieved so many recorded firsts and shaped so much of our culture that we often don’t even recognize how huge they were!
I still yearn for the day we can move to a sexagesimal nubering system.
When you can dig cave homes on the hills, like in the case of Petra and early people in current day Turkey, growing a beard becomes mandatory. 🪨 ⛏
Curious what is says about me that my answer has always been “the Cold War.”
… Other than the fact that history feels far too present these days.
you grew up during The Cold War? That’s about it unless you get more specific for example Im interested in the decline of the USSR and the rise of the CIS.
I was actually born at the “end” of it. I generally am interested in US-Soviet relations and how the Cold War/Communism became a major factor in political campaigns after WWII, specifically the Dewey-Truman upset.
It’s funny, all through college I had either older people looking askance at me about why I’d be interested in “ancient” history or peers teasing me about being a Russian asset just for the interest… I just never thought the Cold War actually ended, and when I was in college in the late 2000s, that was a wild take to have lmao
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Idk, no matter what happens to America, it’s still not Russian, and that will always be a win.
My professor for a class on Soviet intelligence was ex-KGB stationed in East Germany who was a spy for MI-5. He pointed out in 1998 that all his colleagues were still very angry about the decline and that most former Soviet citizens were not doing well and would want revenge. I believe this is it.
When you look at the immediate aftermath post USSR collapse, nearly every ex-soviet country got into really fucking deep economic trouble. There was also the little fact that pretty much every position of power was achieved by being friends with powerful people, so corruption and incompetence were rampant. Combine the two and it’s no wonder most people would rather go back to the old system, especially in the first 10 years.
I recommend anyone interested in the topic checking out how the German reunification worked out. It was quite a mess that they plowed through.
The truth is that every soviet country was already in deep economic trouble, that’s what caused the collapse. There was also a ton of corruption before the fall of the USSR. The only difference was that during the cold war, the USSR wanted to pretend that their way of life was as good or better than the capitalist west. That meant that there was a ton of propaganda making things seem better than they were, and a ton of censorship about how it was in the west. It meant that the corruption was kept relatively quiet so that it didn’t embarrass the government so that it looked weak compared to the west.
As soon as the USSR collapsed, they stopped putting all the effort in to censor the west and make the USSR seem great through propaganda. That resulted in people thinking that the economy had collapsed after the USSR, when the truth is that the actual economy was simply finally revealed to them.
how the German reunification worked out. It was quite a mess that they plowed through.
Well, I’m not sure if you can really say that reunification was ever properly completed.
“When you look at the immediate aftermath post USSR collapse, nearly every ex-soviet country got into really fucking deep economic trouble.”
An economic collapse of your system will do that.
“There was also the little fact that pretty much every position of power was achieved by being friends with powerful people, so corruption and incompetence were rampant. Combine the two and it’s no wonder most people would rather go back to the old system, especially in the first 10 years.”
This was true for the nomenklatura in the USSR. The Soviet nations weren’t any less corrupt or any more competent than anyone else has been.
interesting. I’m most interested in the Khruschev era, during de-Stalinization and when the USSR was at its peak, and the satellite countries (Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, etc.) the collapse just makes me sad.
I graduated high school in 1993. The fall was happening while I was in school. I was interested in how an empire falls apart as I believed it could happen to the USA as well. I wouldn’t have predicted it would be in my lifetime though
Cold War spy stories are the best. It was a rare period of superpower vs. superpower and with enough technology to make it interesting. (I might be wrong, but I don’t think a spy story where you had to communicate using carrier pigeons and spy by simply listening over walls would be as interesting.)
For sure! I love the whole gadgetry aspect, especially how it bled into pop culture with things like Get Smart and Spy vs Spy.
And, of course, the whole Bond franchise.
That just means you grew up in the 90s with the History Channel
What if they said WW1?
Outside of modern history I think my interest is more into technology and way of living than about governments and cultures though. Like what tools did they use, what did they eat, what sort of alcohol did they drink. How did they make it, can I have a recipe.
WWI is super interesting since it set the stage for so much of the current geopolitical landscape. My main issue with “I watched History Channel as a kid” types is that they really just think guns and swords are cool (which they are) and don’t care much about the story of how people ended up in a war.
Also, I know what you mean about how interesting the day to day things from the past can be. I got really into preindustrial economies and how we used to make everything by hand. It’s fun to go into old buildings and seeing the tool marks on the wood and guessing how they made it
The trench warfare of WWI is super boring / horrifying. But, the world just before WWI is so interesting. So many places that no longer exist: the Ottoman Empire, Austria-Hungary, etc. Also, everything being an empire or a kingdom.
I also like the weird technological quirks, like how the very early WWI tanks had a little hole so the tankers could release a pigeon to communicate.
I stayed somewhere build around the 1400s before, restored using the same methods used at the time. Though not likely an accurate depiction of how a normal person would have lived as the normal people houses are all gone and we just keep the impressive ones.
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In college I was drawn towards feminist takes on historical periods I was familiar with as they rarely engaged in great man theories of history and focused more on the day to day lives of people.
“Yes.” Regarding historical periods is my answer. Particularly, a series of history books called “The Cartoon History of the Universe”. Each volume has at least 300 pages, and they are quite large. There is about five books in the mainline series, plus another dedicated to American history.
They were what taught me to enjoy history in general. Humorous, lewd, bloody, with interesting trivia. The only downside is that scientific facts tend to be dated, on account of the series being started in the late 80’s or early 90’s.
What about ancient Egypt without qualifying Old Kingdom, Middle Kingdom or New Kingdom? (I just think they’re all neat.)
Idk. You’re not trying to establish a divine monarchy characterized by inbreeding and a shadow government of priests, are you?
Well, no… I’m more trying to use those methods to destroy extant governments… is that not okay?
I would just say medieval because castles.
I don’t think I have a “favorite period” anymore, but the classical period is super interesting to me mostly with regards to the “losers” like Bactria (current day Afghanistan, conquered by Alexander the Great), Phoenicia/Carthage, Persia (several empires that “annoyed” the yuropeeans).
I like ww2 but not Romans (that whole period is overrated and mid), how racist do I have to be now?
Out of curiosity are any of mine red flags. Early bronze age steppe peoples, the Late Bronze age collapse, the " Viking age" my interests are namely to do with Charlemagne and his influence on it, and pre-columbian European trade in the Americas namely the Greenland colony and the possibility that the Irish and Scots may have been fishing around Newfoundland.
Mainly the viking age, except for the fact that you know who Charlemagne is.
Fair enough also I put it into qoutes for a reason, while the raids and shit are interesting I’m far more fascinated by the expansion of trade networks from Scandinavia to the Near East via the Rus. Though my favorite historical figures are Harald Hadrada and Erik the Red, mostly because of their stories as individuals. Also like I said how Charlemagne put pressure on the Danes during his genocide of the Saxons causing the creation of the Danevirke and possibly riling up the Norse as a whole eventually leading to Lindisfarne and the Viking age. Though this seems to just be a thing Scandinavians do, kinda like hordes invading from the Steppe.
But yeah the Viking age has a lot of Nazis obsessed with it, I just happen to have Norman and Gaelo-Norse ancestors so I became interested in how they came to be.
Also colonization of North America with Vinland, integration into the Roman/Byzantine Empire, and possible contact with China. For as relatively small as their population was, they sure explored a lot and went interesting places. Possibly because their home was unpleasantly cold.
It may have actually been the opposite, the medieval warm period overlaps quite well with the Viking age meaning it’s entirely possible that the longer growing period caused a population surplus and overflow. I actually have a hypothesis that the same thing happened in antiquity causing the Germanic migration out of Scandinavia. Same thing possibly caused the Nordic Bronze age.
I’m a white, Christian, male firearms enthusiast from Texas.
That’s a tough combination when I’m also extremely leftist.
I’ve had so many conversations come to a grinding halt while doing RC stuff, because I realize the person is not only veering the conversation to intentionally toward certain topics, they’re expressing right-wing opinions or shoving religion in my face. I’ve left RC events because they opened with a prayer, or because I’ve seen too many red hats in the crowd.
I’m sure it’s also because of the state I live in, but it’s a little disheartening to see so many people in my hobby who would gladly stone me to death in the street once the government allows it.
Also weirdly mountain biking has me fucking confused. So many magats on my trails, and it was my impression that cycling in general wasn’t as popular amongst the “anti-woke” crowd. Along with other things they view as a threat to their big metal death boxes that run on dead Dino and plant juices.
Lastly, blacksmithing. I do mostly bladesmithing, but like to try all aspects of it. This hobby is rampant with right-wing nut jobs and I’ve stopped watching MANY content creators over the years because they started making personal vlog style videos when Biden got elected bitching about how awful and hard it is to be a straight white male in America.
also target shooting but that’s a hot topic no matter which way you look, but here’s a reminder that armed minorities are harder to oppress
never partake of inebriating substances no matter what type while handling a firearm in any capacity. I’ve seen too many people at an outdoor range with a beer can beside them. This should get you banned from the premesis.
Alcohol at a range? Id never go back. Stone cold sober people are stupid enough handling weapons.
I don’t go back, and I have no more outdoor ranges to go to that aren’t too far away.
I used to go to a childhood friends house but after I moved we kinda drifted apart so it’s weird to ask to use their backyard range.
I would love to have the property to put in at least a 100m lane and a large back stop to stop ricochets and the like. Then I don’t have to go somewhere people will whinge when I shoot more than twice a minute, and I’m not at risk of an ND coming my way.
ND
North Dakota?
In my area (Utah), BLM land is everywhere, and there’s plenty of unused state land an hour or so away. So we can just drive a bit and a flattish area with a natural backstop, and set up some comes or something so people can see the range.
Is that not an option in your area?
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that’s such a hilarious misunderstanding 😭
Apologies.
As deegeese said, Negligent Discharge.
My bad, I tend to think people have more knowledge of obscure things than is normal, I guess.
And I’m in Ohio, so while I technically could find some bit of land to shoot on, there’s forests, fields, and cities. Anything in between is private property.
I’m exaggerating a bit, but that’s more or less how it feels.
Thanks. :) I’m not too familiar with the legal terms here. Everyone is pretty gun-positive (we have Constitutional carry here), so the chance that anyone would call the cops is pretty low if you’re outside city limits, and the chance the cops would do anything is pretty low.
Just be like my neighbor, his backdrop is a state park with hiking trails. He got his guns taken years ago when he flipped out and had a domestic incident but he got em back. Murica! Fuck yeah !
Was visiting some family in central Illinois and went to a range where they allow drinks. They were quite proud of it.
That’s crazy to me. Why would anyone want to be consuming alcohol while shooting?
I know how I am when I smoke, and there’s no chance I’d trust handling a firearm. Not because I’m violent or anything when bake (lol who is) but because my reasoning and decision making skills are impaired, maybe I mistake something for something else in a tense moment and something bad happens. Nope. Safe stays locked, and the door to their room gets locked and the key given to someone responsible, or put in the coffee tin. (I don’t like coffee and baked me steers clear of it, so I figure it’s better to be in there behind several obstructions)
Alcohol makes your aim more steady (in small to smoderate amounts.) It’s considered a PED in shooting competitions.
I believe it. The first hit of my thc pen makes my hands stop shaking, any relaxant is bound to make your aim steadier in just the right amount.
Still won’t ever see me shooting when alcohol is present.
That’s completely fair hahaha
I can only imagine how much shit would hit the fan if their insurance company heard about that lol.
so many magats on my trails
Does this really surprise you? “Country folks” are much more likely to be regularly out in nature, more likely to be into fishing/hunting/camping, and more likely to run Conservative than the more Liberal urban folks.
At least in my experience. Which is something that has me super confused about the national parks thing, cause conservative people routinely poll higher for usage of public lands. But then again I guess it shouldn’t surprise me to see them shocked when they invite the leopard into their house.
that’s an interesting explanation, didn’t think of it that way 🤔
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I have a Peloton at home and at the rare cases when I open the leader board, I am surprised how many people have some MAGA or Trump related tags. Ah well, even the OG Nazis were all about fitness.
Yeah, it’s really annoying being involved in target shooting when everyone thinks you’re a MAGAt as well
I think there are just more of them these days. Young men are an especially growing segment of Trump supporters. And the ones that used to hide themselves are open about it more and more every time Trump wins.
I see them in woodworking, pottery, gaming, hiking. And I live in a blue city in a blue state. I think we just have to accept that most Americans support conservative ideals.
That’s maybe partly true, but pretty much everyone I’ve talked to in my very conservative area (Utah) doesn’t like Trump. In fact, I saw more Ukraine flags in the first year of the war than Trump flags.
I’m no progressive (consider myself libertarian), though I probably align with the OP in all the ways they seem to care about. I want more legal immigration (my SO immigrated), more acceptance of LGBT people, less pollution, more separation of church and state (happen to be deeply religious too), etc. My main difference is that I don’t believe those goals justify using government to restrict rights to effect cultural and social change.
So just be careful about how you tune your Nazi filter. I strongly oppose Trump, but I may get caught in the filter depending on the question.
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I really do, and I would love to move to a different country.
However, I have no college degree, and no work experience beyond retail/food/3rd-party-labor, and about $200 to my name. Maybe $3000 if I sold all my big stuff, including vehicle.
So the chances of me moving without being a political refugee are low, sadly.
I’m going to decide RC is Roman Catholic.
I’ve left [Roman Catholic] events because they opened with a prayer
Remote control as in cars, planes, drones etc
Nah, that’s less fun, I’m sticking with Roman Catholic.
I’m a road biker who occasionally dabbles in gravel and mountain biking.
I think the right wing hatred of cyclists comes down to two primary things:
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They have road rage over being behind bikes on the road, so they “hate cyclists.”
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They equate lycra/spandex as being feminine or at least “non masculine” if not outright “gay.”
They are usually cool with mountain bikers because they aren’t “in their way” on the road, and usually are wearing baggy “manly” clothing.
Ah, insecurity and overcompensation, what would we do without you…
Fellas, is it gay to be comfortable while cycling? My wife will be devastated.
For real. Riding in 100F temps in anything but lycra is out of the question for me. The only time I don’t wear my cycling clothes on a bike is when I am pulling my kid in the trailer and we will be stopping at all the playgrounds.
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Blacksmithing is sick. I would absolutely love to start doing it again (tbf I never really got into it), but I’m not at my parents that often (which is where the equipment is) and if I am I usually dont really have the time.
What’s funny is that while Vikings are mostly remembered for their warrior culture, their success as a diaspora came more from their merchant and sailing culture. THEY were the ‘immigrants.’
I own guns. I love my guns. But I’m not weird about it, I’m all about responsible gun ownership, I don’t have an entire armory, and I ESPECIALLY don’t open carry.
Ammosexuals give the rest of gun enthusiasts a very bad name.
No fucking shit. As a redneck that hunts and goes fishing, it’s miserable being around pretty much any other dude that is a hunter and finds out that I hunt. No hunting buddies or anything for me. I’ve seen a prayer circle at the gun range before.
Good thing I like solitude, I guess.
I can relate so hard to this. Liberal/leftist hunting buddies are basically non existent.
Guns get treated like fashion accessories and articles of declared personal identity. They’re equally treated with disregard like a pair of earrings you throw in the cupholder of the car or leave on the kitchen counter at home.
A radical change from when I was a kid 40 years ago. Gun nuts were nuts and viewed as such. Look at action movies from the ‘80s. If someone had a shitload of guns he was usually crazy.
See: Burt from Tremors
People grew up watching the crazies on TV and decided it looked cool, then became the gun nut when they got money.
I’m weird about it. But I’ve always been weird about it. I’m diagnosed as on the autism spectrum, and it’s been a particular interest of mine since i was in elementary school. The only reason I don’t have an entire armory is because I’m far, far too poor. As it is, I’ve got, um, 10?, I think? With three more planned, plus an SBR and silencer(s)? And yeah, I’ll talk your ear off about gun rights. And motorcycles (I only have one of those).
OTOH, I also care about LGBTQ+ rights, and I’m working on an instructor certification specifically to train LGBTQ+, racial/ethnic/religious minority, SW, etc. people that aren’t going to feel comfortable in any traditional gun space. If it’s uncomfortable to me when an instructor goes off on a Christian nationalist rant, it’s gotta be 10x worse for people that can’t pass as a cis- het- white person. No one should have to deal with that shit just so they can get basic safety and marksmanship instruction.
Why… why do you not know how many guns you have?
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I don’t use a lot of them regularly, or at all. I use my Canik, Rock Island 1911, and AR-15 for competitions every month. If I don’t use it, I don’t think about it very often. Like, my Mosin Nagant? That was a gift from my dad. I’ve shot it exactly once, and realized that 7.62x54mmR from a bolt action, stipper-clip-fed carbine that has a 10#, gritty trigger, and exceptionally poor iron sights is not a fun rifle to shoot. Now it’s hanging on a set of deer antlers that I inherited from my grandfather. The Winchester 1894? It’s over a century old, and while it’s still functional, .38-55 ammunition is somewhat difficult to find.
Just stuff like that. I don’t think about a lot of them very often, so counting them gets difficult.
Once I get my pistol instructor certification, I’ll probably be using my Ruger Mk IV mostly as a gun to let other people learn on. It’s .22LR, so it’s a very forgiving firearm.
At this point, I’m getting guns for a specific purpose. For instance, I want an SBR AR-15 and silencer mostly for doing PCSL. I plan on getting a CZ Shadow II Compact as a carry gun, and also using it for IDPA. I need (well, want) to get a Glock 17P to use as a training aid; it does all of the things that a regular Glock 17 does, but it’s incapable of firing.
Hopefully that makes some kind of sense.
That does make sense. My European brain did not let me think about guns as something one can forget about owning at first.
Kind of like forgetting how many cars one owns.
That makes sense to me; I think most EU countries that allow private gun ownership require licensing for each firearm, or something similar. I know that it’s exceptionally difficult in many areas, and the guns that I shoot matches with–semi-automatic pistols with 15-20 round magazines, and semi-automatic rifles with 30 round magazines–are very tightly controlled in many places.
Shadow 2 Compact fucks
How many pairs of underwear do you have? How many screwdrivers? After you pass 2 of something, it becomes something you don’t keep in mind. I know where all the guns I have that are not in the safe are around my house (no kids), but I have to take mental inventory to get a count of how many I own. Same thing with computers, rc cars, and other hobbies.
I like my guns and I am weird. I do try to not let most folks know about my gun hobby because they’ll make assumptions about me that I don’t have the energy nor patience to dispel.
There used to be a FB group called something like “gun people who hate gun people” I do clay shooting, and some. 22 pistols and its great fun. And while I respect those who hunt (and hit not just wounds the damn birds with one unlucky shotgun pellet. See so many poor shots who turn up at the range in August, shoot a few rounds of trap, miss 7-10 clay pigeons and off they go to shoot birds) I can’t do hunting as I don’t really like the kill.
I do home canning and a fair deal of baking. There’s a lot of trad bullshit around this that makes me just go “I’m canning cause I love me some candied jalapeños, not because my husband demands I do”
Does programming count as a hobby? I waste my free time on it… There’s this funny stereotype, of a queer programmer with long, quirky socks, and maybe even a fursona. Despite being a small percentage, such types are often overrepresented online. It used to bother me a little.
Nowadays I’m so, so glad when someone I’m talking to is part of that group. It usually means I don’t need to worry about them being weirdly sexist, like women don’t suffer enough in STEM already, or insisting that we need to keep politics out of tech (i.e. they want their politics to rule, unquestioned).
(Need something more tangible? Look no further than uncle bob (skip to the bottom). I’ve seen his books in classrooms, in the office, and let’s not speak of online mentions. This is a relatively well-known, respected name in the industry. If you get to know people, you will meet many, many uncle bobs out there.)
Silly feelings on my part? Perhaps. One less thing to worry about, though.
This is a big problem as a leftist who likes to shoot guns.
It’s the worst trying to interact with the community.
So much this.
I found pure sports shooting a bit better, because people either are there for the sport or feel bound by fair play, at least most of the time
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Me with my koi pond, before I discovered that most other pond owners are elderly right wing conspiracy theorists who don’t believe in crazy stuff like the nitrogen cycle or that mailing invasive plants like water hyacinth or water spangled is illegal.
Nazi punks fuck off. This is not a good example. Every metal enjoyer I know is progressive. It’s one of the few communities that is still mostly sane and decent.
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Tbf that’s only the imperium fans. The rest at least know they’re playing pretend. Maybe not the Boyz I think they’re serious.
As someone outside the fandom looking in it seems like the entire 40K franchise revolves around the Space Marines, with the other factions taking a supporting role at best.
Space Marines sell the most, so they get the most frequent support. Each faction has a very loyal and very ravenous fanbase though. Generally if someone is a “space marine fan” they’re either really new, or extremely old. It’s the people that are into the Imperium factions as a whole you should look out for.
“I like the ones that look like space Nazis the most.”
Oh, the principality/republic of Zeon/Neo Zeon?
Now imagine if you play imperial guard. I feel like I am the only fan who understands IG. Its about people living under a cruel unwieldy empire that is utterly indifferent to their lives with almost no way out. Your entire world with all it rich history and unique culture can be wiped out in a second. And it wont mean a thing. Shit like that is what makes IG cool
I had someone get incredibly mad my UN blue imperial guard beat their afrika korps death guard. Like crying mad.
Heresy intensifies.
Me but with anime and pedophiles
If someone enters a conversation saying child-coding isn’t a thing, they get a free block