Prime Minister Mark Carney has asked for a review of Canada’s plan to purchase a fleet of F-35 fighter jets.

The deal with Lockheed Martin and the U.S. government is for 88 planes at a cost of about US$85 million each.

A spokesperson for Defence Minister Bill Blair said Carney has asked Blair to look into whether the F-35 contract is the best investment for Canada, or if there are better options.

“We need to do our homework given the changing environment, and make sure that the contract in its current form is in the best interests of Canadians and the Canadian Armed Forces,” Blair’s press secretary Laurent de Casanove said.

  • Lad
    link
    fedilink
    248 hours ago

    Can I interest you in a Eurofighter Typhoon?

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        1
        edit-2
        19 minutes ago

        The purpose of buying jets from someone other than America is to reduce America’s influence over Canada, why would China sabotage that?

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        8
        edit-2
        6 hours ago

        China is Canada’s second biggest trade partner, unless they’re planning to follow America to war with China, what’s the problem? Especially because it’s for a military that was designed for the singular purpose of defending itself from an American invasion over the last 70 years.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          33 hours ago

          The Canadian public isint ready to swallow it yet but that’s where it’s going to end up at. China and Iran have been preparing for this scenario for the last 20+ years.

          They have all the kit and more needed, and in the right quantity too. In time. People still don’t really belive Trump would push the button. The closer he gets the more open to this reality people will become.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    138 hours ago

    It always seemed strange that Canada would agree (how much arm twisting?) to buy a plane that won’t work well in our Arctic. We are committed to buying 16 jets but it would probably be better to buy the rest elsewhere or put our money into homegrown solutions. Maybe drones or other machines.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      137 hours ago

      Excuse me sir, may I interest you in Gripen? Cold weather tested, fascist free, and oh so stylish. Book your test flight today!

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      97 hours ago

      Maybe we should be looking at what we need for city close quarters defenses and guerilla fighting.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        3
        edit-2
        6 hours ago

        If they do plan on invading, it will probably involve them coming from the North as well, and not just the South-- especially if they were to occupy Greenland first.

  • Laser
    link
    fedilink
    English
    71
    edit-2
    11 hours ago

    Fuck yeah! Canada will vote with its dollar!

  • Hikuro-93
    link
    fedilink
    47
    edit-2
    10 hours ago

    Heck yeah. Go Carney.

    With love from Portugal. 🇵🇹🤝🇨🇦

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    3210 hours ago

    Seems stupid to buy defense resources from a country that could become hostile. Do any European companies have anything to offer? I get that GOS and a lot of resources are still probably going to come from the USA but right now, the less the better.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    139 hours ago

    Messing with the military industrial complex is not the smartest move for Trump. All that will do is turn the military against him.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    3211 hours ago

    There was the “kill switch” rumour recently that trump (any president) can remotely disable any/all f35s they wanted to

    It’s probably not true, but the truth is just as disasterous for foreign buyers.

    A shutdown of parts out of US does essentially the same and is much easier to do on a whim and withhold the solution in negotiations.

    People weren’t just buying US because “we’re the best” it’s because we could be relied on for support, because no one fucksnwith the US military industrial complex

    trump is tho, and that’s a hell of a lot more dangerous for a politician than pissing off day traders

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      2310 hours ago

      They require maintenance in the US. How well would that work if the US was invading us?

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        1610 hours ago

        Yes, that is the point I am making, and the argument your government is making for canceling the contract.

        If trump were to cut off logistical support for that or any other whim, they would have to be mothballed.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          139 hours ago

          The SAAB would be much better as they allow local parts manufacture and local maintenance.

      • @Whorehoarder
        link
        English
        49 hours ago

        They don’t give any access to the stealth tech either, as far as I understand

  • Sixty
    link
    fedilink
    English
    1910 hours ago

    He’s keeping up decorum but yeah these jets are done. You can’t buy military equipment from an enemy and the jets would have to be serviced in the USA over their lifetime.

      • queermunist she/her
        link
        fedilink
        1
        edit-2
        5 hours ago

        Is Russia going to invade Canada? 🙄

        I fucking hate how liberals have turned into NatSec war hawks and are demanding every country from Canada to Portugal buy more fucking fighter jets. Instead of wasting money on the MIC how about they invest in their people?

        • @[email protected]OP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          55 hours ago

          Trump has said on multiple occasions that Canada WILL become the 51st state. In order to keep at least a modicum of democracy alive here we must fight to save it, because every form of diplomacy we’ve tried has failed.

          Trump wants Canada under his thumb, and when someone tells you who they are and what they want, believe them.

          So yes, we need everything we can get to help the nation survive, including fighter jets … although tbf I’m not even sure we’d get them in time. But we have to try, no matter what.

          If that’s not your thing, fine. You have every right to choose differently. But don’t condemn those of us who are willing to fight.

          • queermunist she/her
            link
            fedilink
            1
            edit-2
            5 hours ago

            Trump says a lot of stupid shit.

            But let’s entertain the idea that he’s serious and that he will be allowed to start a war on Canada. Do you think Canada can buy enough jets to even matter? Can you even imagine how much that would cost? Is there even enough productive capacity in the world for those jets to be delivered in less than ten years? Come on.

            If it comes to a fight against the US the best strategy is guerilla warfare. It’s been tried and tested from Vietnam to Iraq!

            • @[email protected]OP
              link
              fedilink
              English
              35 hours ago

              Trump says a lot of stupid shit.

              Yes he does, but strangely enough he’s followed through with a lot more of it in his 2.0 incarnation.

              Do you think Canada can buy enough jets to even matter?

              As I said previously I’m not even sure we could have any delivered before the conflict began. But that shouldn’t negate us at least trying.

              Can you even imagine how much that would cost?

              Yes, billions of dollars.

              Would you also recommend that Ukraine stop spending money it doesn’t have to fight Russia? I sure hope not.

              Is there even enough productive capacity in the world for those jets to be delivered in less than ten years?

              Already answered more than once.

              If it comes to a fight against the US the best strategy is guerilla warfare.

              Agreed. That is what we will end up in. I’m wondering why you wouldn’t want more fighting power tho?

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    1810 hours ago

    maybe don’t rely on fighter jets than can possibly be disabled remotely by someone talking about invading you

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    1210 hours ago

    Lockheed Martin”We specialize in destroying the lives of brown people, come fly with us”

  • kbal
    link
    fedilink
    59 hours ago

    For the $70 billion it would apparently cost in total to have these super fancy fighter jets, they could instead build a million new low-cost housing units and still have some money left over to work on inventing innovative air defence systems that aren’t so expensive…

    • @[email protected]OP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      169 hours ago

      6 months ago I would have agreed with you. Unfortunately now we have to focus on saving Canada.