• Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    can one of the Brits lay out bullet points or just a short list of why Thatcher is so universally hated by the uk?

    I really only know the memes and I’m finally curious about the substance.

    thank you.

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      She (similar to Reagan in the US) enacted a massive shift in government/society from a more social-democratic focus to a more (economocally) liberal one. Her big goals were to privatize and financialize as much as possible.

      This ended up leading to (as it always does) massive increases in inequality, with particularly rural/industrial regions suffering heavily while the services/financial sector in London boomed.

      So she is EXTREMELY polarizing. Many conservatives or big-business types worship her, while for many/most others she’s seen as the worst thing to happen to the UK.

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        Also lets not forget how the changes in press-ownership legislation during her time set the way for the growth of the Far-Right which has already delivered Brexit and will quite likely keep on regularly delivering problems to the UK.

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        Why does she show up as LibLeft on political compasses if she’s so Reagan?

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      In one word? austerity.

      But seriously, she probably is not even close to “universally” disliked. Lemmy (or the Internet in-general) is not a representative sampling of the population. For example, a sizable portion of their population voted for Brexit (many of whom now regret it.) You probably wont hear much from them on Lemmy, tho.

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      To add on what @Higgs [email protected] said, credit to where it’s due, the privatisation did help the struggling British economy lift itself out of edging bankruptcy caused by the oil crisis. We have to admit that, sometimes, you need to tighten your belt. But, Thatcher went too far with gutting welfare and unions. Even some respectable conservatives at the time agreed that she went too far.

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      Thatcher the milk snatcher.

      It’s incredible how she is almost universally hated in the UK.

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        It’s far from universal, the impression probably comes from the general left leaning bias of online Brits and the fact that people that don’t like her tend to really fucking hate her due to her policies leading to the complete devastation of entire communities.

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          Yeah, the American analogue is Reagan. SO MANY people jack themselves off about being a “Reagan Republican” here, and whenever I hear someone say that, I just think “oh, ok, so you’re a racist imperialist hyper capitalist without a shred of empathy, but you don’t like to say it out loud, gotcha”

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            Many years ago I saw a post on…probably Digg, that espoused 200 (very valid) reasons to hate Reagan. It was one of those light-bulb moments for me as at that time I had no idea how damaging his presidency was.

            However, the new American analogue will be trump.

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              I mean, Reagan was step 3 of how we got here. The first two steps were Nixon, and the dawn/systematic adoption of the Friedman Doctrine as the de rigueur corporate governance tactic in the US and most of the western world.

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            That’s the value of charisma. I can’t not seethe while listening to Reagan shucks his way to destroying the welfare state, but he was an actor, I’ve got to assume he was good at striking the right note for people who didn’t have the consequences of his policies right at hand.

            I wish charisma were less effective, but unfortunately this is the world we live in. Even worse, the only Kennedy we have on the national scene is RFK Jr.

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          Yep I was in one of those mining communities just too young to understand what was going on till the mid to late 90s when I tried to get my 1st job only to realise there was nothing

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      It’s difficult to imagine the death of an American politician being met with similar protests.

      Not even for Kissinger?

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    I’m sure there were also wonderful moments later on when people had a chance to piss on her grave.