• @[email protected]
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    1749 months ago

    Imagine if landlords decided to strike. The consequences would be…

    There’d be noone to…

    The land doesn’t lord itself you know!

  • @[email protected]
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    1409 months ago

    Satire is no excuse for landphobia, you’re still putting out problematic content that could be taken out of context and weaponized to trigger Persons of Land. Delete this

      • @[email protected]
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        499 months ago

        Chin up, king. At least we can sleep each night knowing we’ve done a long day of hard and honest work, unlike these lazy leech rentoids.

        • @[email protected]
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          399 months ago

          Preach, brother! I hammered in five crooked nails, slapped primerless paint on a whole door, and only jacked the rent $250 this week. The plebs don’t know how good they have it.

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            With rent spikes that low, you’re basically running a charity, and I bet you didn’t even hear a peep of gratitude from your ungrateful tenants. Raise those rents even higher bro, at least $100 for each nail you hammered. You deserve it for all that thankless toil.

  • @[email protected]
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    839 months ago

    I can never tell if the comments on these posts are made ironically or if there really is a large percentage of people who think being a landlord is a real job

      • @[email protected]
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        339 months ago

        I feel like landlord can be a real job, if you actually maintain and upgrade the property and charging a reasonable price. That’s different than a landowner who pays some schmuck to manage it for them, pays the manager shit and charges the tenants unreasonable sums simply bc they can.

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          279 months ago

          Unironically like my landlord. He leaves me alone, I leave him alone, and my rent only went up $50 in the 3 years I’ve been here. He’s fixed 1 major issue in that time because I take care of my shit.

          Personally, the less interaction I have to have with my liegelord landlord, the better.

          But it doesn’t stop most of them from being money grabbing assholes. But the real problem is those speculative investment house flippers putting $10000 and a 6-pack into a home and marking it up 50%

          And the fucking zoning committees ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

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          109 months ago

          I’ve been renting my entire adult life and I’ve required maybe six hours of effort from my landlords in that time. It would take thousands of properties to keep someone honestly employed full time managing them.

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            Idk people like you or me might not take up a lot of maintenance time but I had property manager previously who was also a landlord who was actually there all the time in a building of around 13 units doing actual work. He only had one other building as far as I know and kept pretty busy. But then, he wasn’t a “landlord” in the sense we’re discussing. He owned the buildings and maintained them.

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      There are fewer good landlords than bad ones, but the good ones work hard to maintain their investment and provide homes to families despite it being a liability. These properties are majority purchased on loans, after all.

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        89 months ago

        I agree that not all landlords are bad (and not all tenants are good) but I have a hard time believing anyone becomes a landlord to “provide homes to families”. It’s an investment, a source of income.

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          A majority of the white collar people I work with brag about how many homes they own and rent because it’s the best investment they ever made without having to put much work into it. One of them rents out his deceased mother’s house left to him in a will for $9000 a month to a family of like 12 with 4 generations in it and it’s only like a 4-5 bedroom house.

          He isn’t doing it to provide, he’s doing it because it’s good money. Stocks don’t get you that instant cash back like renting does.

          God I hope it’s a bubble and I hope they all end up destitute trying to sell the houses. I don’t even fucking care if I get it worse, I can’t compete, and they all have like 3+ houses a piece.

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              Sure my direct acknowledgement of it is anecdotal but it doesn’t change the fact that first time home buyers are way down and people buying property for investing are practically an all time high. In Canada investor buying is a third of all house purchases and at best they will rent for additional profit.

              Edit: also what the fuck does that even mean? Literally just added nothing to the conversation and strawmam for what? That’s not how people talk and you don’t seem smart for saying it.

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          If you buy 3 homes (and the land beneath it) for roughly 300k USD, which is a very very low estimate, on a 15 year loan and pay more than 4 or 5% interest then you need to make 2,219.06 to 2,372.38 a month for the minimum payment before figuring costs of insurance and costs of maintenance like painting, doors, replacing heat tape on water lines, sometimes replacing entire walls, windows, fixtures, or insulation, pest control, roofing every couple of years. You also have to pay estimated taxes every quarter. If one of your homes sits empty or your renters are late then you are at a deficit. If you evict then you’ll end up covering power and water as well. It’s not all that profitable on the small scale, absolutely feels like charity if you’re charging less than $1400.

          But the thing is, if nobody buys those homes, then they aren’t on the market for rent. So then where do people live? Luckily, low income housing has become more available across the USA, but it’s definitely not the greatest community to raise children.

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      Ironic humor isn’t a thing. If someone says something and then backpedals and says it was ironic, it’s a lie and they’re just scared of being judged for takes they know are stupid. It could be satire or sarcasm, but considering how landlord meme subreddits are I really doubt it

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        59 months ago

        I think There are some genuine humour/satire cases, but on the whole I agree that ironic humour leaves the door open to actual bad actors. We’ve got to be able to drop the mask and say that no really landlords have no right to complain

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      49 months ago

      Geldadel (money aristocracy). It didn’t even change that much. In the past their excuse was religion now it’s “proficiency”.

  • @[email protected]
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    409 months ago

    Can we really not leave his “ironic” pro-landlord bullshit on reddit? They don’t give a fuck about you, they will never want anything for you other than paying your rent, you’ll never be one unless you’ve already got really good money. “jokingly” jerking them off isn’t gonna change any of that

    Istg if I see the word rentoid on here regularly I’m chucking my phone in a river

    • @[email protected]
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      289 months ago

      They’re taking the piss out of people who defend landlords, why so mad. This is a shitpost community, don’t need to be so serious

    • MrMobius
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      229 months ago

      This post might just be taking the piss at those trying to defend landlords. Or its a genuine effort to take their side, I’m not sure. Anyway, criticism of landlords was bound to bring people to defend them and/or criticise renters in response. Don’t fret too much, many of us also despise the accumulation of weath through acquiring real estate.

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      Our landlady is pretty cool. If we want to buy something that can be an addition to the flat (like furniture or appliances or something) she gladly pays for it. So far in two years she paid for our coffee machine, rice cooker, balcony table and chairs, living room rug, and a new bed in my room. Downside of course is that if we move these have to stay, but honestly it’s such a good place for about half the market value that we’re not planning to do it any time soon. And of course if there’s any maintenance required, we just send her a photo and a link with a price to a part that needs replacing or supplies that need to be bought and she pays for it, and I guess she’s glad she doesn’t have to pay for a technician, we just do it ourselves.

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        59 months ago

        So.

        She bought herself those things, and you do the maintenance on your apartment, while she charges what used to be considered an ok rate before the market got captured by algorithmic price fixing and private equity firms.

        Yes, unfortunately that does make her “one of the good ones.”

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              1: Renting itself is an important stepping stone in current society 2: Corporations fucking love it when dumbasses fight those only slightly better off than then instead of the corporations/people at the top 3: None of this matters to you because feeling big about yourself is more important than actually talking/listening to those you’re engaged with

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          A more accurate description would be: she bought herself those things knowing she will never use them and most likely going to be amortized when we finally leave and the next “rentoid” comes in, needing replacement anyway. She doesn’t raise our rent despite the market and our contract allowing her to do so.

          Regarding maintenance think about issues like replacing broken hinges, changing an amortized shower head, replacing sealing rings in our sink drain etc. So far (in 2,5 years) never had any actual big issue which we couldn’t fix ourselves, but if that were the case we would call a technician and send her the invoice.

          In our country our situation is a little different. Our government introduced a package which was supposed to help families build or buy homes, giving a large sum of money without having to pay it back, and giving the same amount of money again with extremely low interest rates. This has caused housing prices to double in a few years. But it didn’t just affect the housing market, it affected everything that you might buy for a new home (building materials themselves, furniture, appliances etc) because one of the conditions of this package is to renovate, build or buy a relatively newly built house/flat. For example the bed she bought was literally the same I had at home, and its price tripled (I reiterate, fucking TRIPLED) over a couple years. Other factors like the pandemic and the war have also affected the market.

          Due to being the #1 country with the highest inflation in the EU (yay!) interest rates also skyrocketed, which makes it pretty much impossible to buy a house/flat anymore with the inflated prices. This has caused an insane increase in the number of people who want to rent, there was a time where barely any flats were available on housing websites. The market reflected the increased demand, people started giving out rooms, renovating old homes to allow parts of it to be rented, people with a lot of money started building apartment houses, etc. And of course the prices (after “rentoids” sucked up the market) were going to be higher to reflect the higher demand.

    • @[email protected]
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      69 months ago

      I visited my landlady every week and listened to her tell stories about growing up 90 years ago in the house I live in. I made double portions of dinners and brought half to her. She made me cookies from her mom’s recipes. I called her kids when she seemed disoriented and I stayed in the hospital all night with her when they weren’t sure she would make it till morning. I stayed with her when they brought her back to her house so she could look at her garden a last time and I held her hand while she passed.

      Not all landlords are bad.

      • @[email protected]
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        49 months ago

        There are nice people everywhere. There were nice aristocrats who lived off the favour of the courts, whose wealth was also stolen.

        Look, I’m also considering renting my house out for a very low amount to a young family and living in a garage when I’m older, but at least I know I’m taking advantage of a system that gives me unearned advantages for getting in on real estate early.

        I don’t need anyone to defend me. I have actual privilege.

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    369 months ago

    My only comment on the landlord stuff is that there are landlords that are good, but they’re extremely rare. My landlord from college, whom I now consider to be a friend, and regularly keep up with, became a friend because he was an exceedingly great landlord.

    He would regularly visit the property to check in, do the work around the place that needed to be done. Stuff like shoveling snow, cutting the grass, etc. He made sure everything was running correctly and there were no issues; if there was ever a problem he would address it right away and at the very least, give you a rough timeline on when things would be fixed.

    You could call him 24/7 and he would drop whatever he was doing and head out to address any issue that needed immediate attention. He was lenient on payments, often foregoing first/last/security payments with little more than the commitment to pay by a certain date, which could be months into the future. We were students and sometimes our financial assistance didn’t come in exactly when we needed it, and we had to argue with our financial institution to get our cheques for the semester. He provided everything included in the rent, from heat/power to internet. Rent was reasonable and often under market value for what was provided. He was less concerned about making profit and more concerned with the house paying for itself, and running smoothly.

    Before anyone has the chance to comment, this guy is a unicorn. I’m damned lucky to have rented from him. By no means does he represent even a fraction of 1% of landlords. He did everything in his power to ensure we were taken care of and that’s why I rented from him the entire time I was in college, and a few of my friends ended up moving into my student house over the course of my college career. I don’t expect to ever find another landlord that’s anywhere near his quality ever again. I’ve had the need to rent from others, because he doesn’t really have any units that served my needs later in life (and now I have a mortgage, so never again), and the difference is dramatic. Most landlords seems to do everything in their power to avoid taking responsibility, visiting the property, or have anything happen that doesn’t either sweep problems under the rug, or make it someone else’s problem. They just want their money, and damn everything else.

    99.9% of landlords are garbage, and they deserve every ounce of hate towards them. They’ve worked hard at earning that hate and they get the hate that they have earned. I recognise that my experience with this one landlord does not and should not excuse any of that loathing that others feel about landlords in general and the vast majority are not worth the oxygen that they consume.

    My entire point is that it’s not 100% of landlords that are shit. It’s damn close to 100% but it’s not. A very small fraction of a percent are actually good at what they do, and take issues seriously. They get involved in issues without hesitation and resolve problems quickly, without complaint. It is an extremely small number of them. My (now) friend who happens to also be a landlord is one such example. That being said, it’s not worth it to maintain an entire industry full of shit for the few that actually do things well and provide something valuable. So I’m still in favor of burning it all down and rebuilding from scratch. Temporary/rental living has a place in society for those who will be living in an area for a small amount of time (college/university is an easy example), but on the whole, ownership should be a painless experience, and it’s not. In no small part because of landlords buying up anything they can. Another contributing factor is house flippers, whom I consider to be a scourge to society, since so few of them do anything remotely correct. Many don’t do things that will even stand up to moderate use and buying from a flipper often results in having to have most of the work re-done correctly within a few years.

    It’s a horrid part of society and should be abolished.

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      There are three reasons that “good landlords” seem to be scarce:

      • People tend to be more vocal about bad experiences than good, so we’ll definitely hear more about the bad ones

      • Many people decided to become a landlord because it outpaced other “investments” greatly, especially if you’re a shitty landlord who doesn’t put profit back into maintaining said “investment”

      • Many of the good landlords that did exist and weren’t gouging eventually got hit with a bad tenant that cost them a lot of suffering and $$$ while being extremely difficult to evict. Whether it’s true or not, I still hear current ones who say they’re charging [crazy amount] to pad for the eventual $20k bill when a bad tenant wrecks their place (and these days it’s not hard to do $20k+ in damage)

      Also per the comic: I’ve never heard of anyone tipping a landlord, good or bad

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    Who tips a landlord? What kind of bs is that?

    If anything, landlords should gift steady and good tenants with something nice, a cash gift card or something.

  • MadMaurice
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    I’m sorry I have to ask. Are there really landlords that expect a tip?

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        You don’t understand tipping culture, their bosses don’t pay them enough so they need to make a living on tips. Give them the tip or they can’t pay rent! /s

    • Evie
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      Well they expect their tenants to subsidize their living completely… I could imagine they would also at least want a tip from them because without the landlord they wouldn’t have a place to live…

      /S for those in the back who can’t swim in sarcasm

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    So he’s burdened by kindness and love?

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    89 months ago

    Are there actual cost increases for landlords that justifies them charging so much more on rents now, or is it solely based on “market prices”? I imagine taxes increase, maybe insurance, their own mortgage may fluctuate, and then you have things just breaking down in a house on a regular basis, so imagine they do need to pad the rent a little bit just to cover additional costs, but current prices seem excessive. To me it just seems like price gouging, but I’m not a landlord, so I don’t know what goes into it.

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      49 months ago

      The big thing is pricing in an eviction moratorium, it’s going to be a while before landlords are ok with thinking the government won’t remove their recourse for unpaid rent.

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        The big thing is that they all use a piece of software to create a cartel. The rent prices in the US are being artificially inflated by companies like Zillow that chart all the “comps” in an area. A “comp” is a completed sale. The thing is that they can buy a property at 120-300% of actual value in the area to create a “comp” that artificially inflates the “value” of all the other properties in the area, thereby allowing their property management division to jack up rents, which since they all share what they are charging jacks up all the other rents in the area.

        Break the corporate cartels.

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          Break the corporate cartels.

          I don’t believe the current members of Congress would consider that a high priority thing for them to do.

          You’re going to have to run for congress, win, and then not get corrupted once you’re there, to do that.

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      29 months ago

      Some provide actual value by working as a superintendent for the properties they own, most simply hire a management company and pass the costs onto the tenants.

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    89 months ago

    The only thing landlords actually have a claim to be worried about is what’s going to happen to them once their tenants are free.

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    “I ain’t giving you shit, I ain’t paying the rent 'til I’ve got hot water and my toilet is fixed. I don’t care, you can try to kick me out if you want to. ’ Cause I’ll be away, gonna be away tomorrow, I’m gonna do it right and find a place, and I will tell my slumlord to get out of my face! I get the world, you get nothing! I ain’t giving a shit, I’m not paying the rent, and I will tell my slumlord to get out of my face, you ain’t getting a thing from me!”

    " Slumlord" - Bomb The Music Industry!