There’s enough content for me here, and metric FUCKTONS less toxicity; so there’s jackshit Spez could offer, to get me back.
BTW, I detest the repost bots linking directly back to that cesspool. At least provide archive links, just to fuck with Spez’s engagement numbers.
and metric FUCKTONS less toxicity;
Is that true though?
We have huge communities that are either completely unmoderated or have huge swaths of “the mods are asleep” time. And the assholes have picked up on it.
I definitely suffer more verbal abuse on Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit.I’m sticking around for other reasons, but definitely not the warm and cuddly large communities.
Curious. May I ask, what are people verbally abusing you for? I did a quick skim over your recent comments and I found nothing really controversial, my profile is probably more controversial than yours and I have yet to receive a single grumpy message
Yea I don’t know where the “reddit so toxic, Lemmy so good” stuff is coming from. Reddit was never toxic in recent years, just generic as shit with the same comments everywhere.
Lemmy has far more… Passionate users, to put it kindly.
Reddit was never toxic in recent years
Nah dude, you can’t be serious. It obviously varies between the communities and the bubble you created for yourself on Reddit. But even in the smaller somewhat niche subs I frequented had people acting toxic and hostile. And it became more and more in recent years. And I am definitely not talking about all the manospehre, incel and cringe subs. Those are on a whole other level of toxic and at least as bad as similar algorithmic bubbles on Twitter.
There is also toxicity on Lemmy, too. But you can just manage what you consume so much better. Never encountered Hexbear stuff outside of drama posts for example.
In my experience, every single time I ever posted anything on Reddit I would get like 1 or 2 genuine nice and or helpful replies and the test would be anger and hate. Here that does happen but it’s much rarer, at least to me, so far
From my experience reddit has gotten waaaaay more toxic over the last few years. And that toxicity was only increasing. I had fairly carefully curated my subscriptions there too, so it wasn’t like I was signed up to only shitty subs.
reddit have more rude comments
Block those communities or ask the admins of your instance to defederate if there’s not much redeeming content from the offending instance(s).
I’ve unsubbed, but the community in question is a major source of content so I’m not about to block it. I just treat the comments like I do on YouTube.
No. Lemmy had a lull in toxicity during the fuck Spez rush, but my toxic meter reads way higher here than on reddit (although any anonymous community is going to lean toxic).
I think consenting opinions are even less welcome here than on Reddit. Which is wild, considering Reddit already wasn’t great with it.
Right?
And also, I noticed that when I decide to be a dick (not proud of it, but hey what can you do), I always get away with it. On Reddit eventually a mod wakes up and takes charge.
On Lemmy sometimes the comments just vanish when mods get to them. On reddit I always would get a notice and explanation at least.
On Lemmy, the modlog is not hidden and is open to all.
I don’t know how you’re seeing it on sh.it.just.works, but on lemmy.world it’s a link in the lower right of every page, down at the very end where it says
BE: 0.18.5 Modlog Legal Instances Docs Code join-lemmy.org
To see removed comments you would sort by action. Or if it’s your own comments that are gone, you would sort by user. And then just browse.
It’s sorted by reverse date, so newest are first, but if the removal is within the last day it’ll still be in the first couple of pages.
I also am fairly certain (but don’t quote me on this) that if you want to see the removed comments for a specific community you should access the modlog on that page, to ensure that you’re seeing the modlog for the instance hosting that community and not the modlog for your home instance.
On reddit I always would get a notice and explanation at least.
No, Reddit did not always inform you when they removed your comments; far from it. In the bigger subs it’s actually rare, and anymore they just remove AND shadowban you. Removed comments used to be easy to find, but these days post-APIcalypse you need to run your Reddit user ID through the Reveddit tool to see all your removed comments there.
Thee comments sort of vanish but not quite, and the reply guys still seem to be able to find them somehow. There’s probably something wonky about how mod actions are federated.
I don’t really get verbal abuse but I feel like there are a lot more posts that I click on with the intent of commenting only to read the existing comments and deciding not to comment so I don’t wade into pile of shit.
that has been the opposite of my experience.
and i frequently bring up controversial topics here that would get some bigger communities on reddit rabid.
and when people respond negatively, they are very rarely an asshole about it.
Removed by mod
Oh no, meanness!
In general my posts here get less upvotes and comments than when I used to post on Reddit, but the coversations here tend to be more relaxed, constructive and lasting for longer.
There’s a lot of nice people, that’s for sure. It’s a night and day difference.
metric FUCKTONS less toxicity
I really wish this were true but we are absolutely sliding in the direction of more toxicity and I think it’s a large part of why users are leaving. What’s more is that there’s not nearly enough actually insightful commenting to make up for it. Reddit has absolutely lost a lot of that too but you can usually still find something on the field of bullshit. Very frequently I can read 20-30 comments here and not see a single insightful or original thought.
And if anyone misses the toxicity (of our city, of our ciiiiity) from Reddit, we can totally emulate that here!
Ummm… I disagree! You’re a butthole because my opinion is different. Also, I didn’t actually do any research, which makes you a double-butthole.
I find Lemmy quite a bit more toxic then Reddit and that is bothering me. Was on a post where a cop was full up ambushed and murdered and every single post was praising it. And there was over a hundred posts so not just a couple of wing nuts. Then you got the tankies and a great number of immature posts. Then you got the extreme left leaning slant attitude on every subject that pretty much creates echo chambers along with mods that will shadow ban. Technically working well, administratively and quality wise the experience is pretty low.
Maybe it’s just my feed, but I miss the diversity, lemmy is biased towards tech-nerd people
Well even if I wanted to go back to Reddit, I couldn’t use it without a decent mobile app, and all of those no longer exist.
Communities don’t spring up fully formed, they grow over time with many rises and falls in activity along the way. Lemmy is still young and we can all do our part to help it.
And using the mobile web site is a pain in the ass, too. Won’t stop nagging me to use the app. No, I do not want to use your shitty app!
At this point I only use it when a thread comes up in a search result, or occasionally to check /r/buildapcsales
It’s not nice but it works for the couple of times a week I check some specific subs that I want to stay in.
old.reddit might be discontinued. Reddit is already torn apart
Yeah the thing about Lemmy is that people immediately expect it to be a reddit clone with all the same niche communities. Reddit didn’t start off with thousands of communities on Day 1. It started off as Reddit. Then they added NSFW and pics. It took decades to grow. People that expect Lemmy to appear with all those same communities overnight but it’s just not gonna happen. You’ve got to give it time. Instead of posting in your favorite football team’s community, you might have to post to the NFL community. Eventually as we grow, more niche communities will spring up.
Now I’m sure that the number of users is lower than a few months ago, but I wonder how many people are just lurking, never commenting/ posting.
Honestly I love the Lemmy. I do check in every day, but I don’t often comment or post, I’ll admit it.
Then again I never really posted on Reddit either.
I tried Mastodon, I actively did, and I still lurk from time to time—logically it makes the most sense for me to use professionally—but there’s something I don’t just like about it. Probably that simply it isn’t my platform of choice—or maybe it is that I would technically need to use it professionally to replace FB and IG.
There’s so much social media fatigue. I just want to relax and goof around, doing it respectfully of course.
Probably a lot, lurking is how I use both platforms. There’s the 90-9-1% rule for a reason
Pretty heavy lurker here. Maybe I need to start doing my part and raise those numbers
I sometimes have a twinge of guilt about it too. When I was younger and had more free time, I would spend time on actual submissions and not just comment. But I’m too old and tired for that shit these days.
Does it matter if Lemmy is losing users? I haven’t noticed my feeds losing active users even if it’s down across the fediverse. Besides they’ll be back the next time Reddit has another unpopular decision which should take about another 3 months
I think it very much matters WHY Lemmy is losing users. If it’s a fixable problem, well then we should fix it gahdamnit
I think it’s hard to maintain a critical mass in an anonymous social media/aggregator. You need enough fresh content to satisfy users, and you need enough users to provide that user driven content.
If you’re only in the popular Lemmy channels then you probably wouldn’t notice the users leaving, but the small communities are the first to go.
The main problem is just that it’s harder to get started with it than it is to just hop on another social media site and browse. It requires a bit of effort, and that’s like being second to start a race. It’s always going to be hard to catch up.
Good point
Exactly. I would never have guessed Lemmy is losing users if every other meme wasn’t about it. Stuff still seems just as lively now as it was a couple months ago.
It’s weird right? I checked the active user monthly and across the lemmyverse it’s indeed plunging slowly, but the content seems to be growing despite that, significantly better than from june to august.
Though the instance i’m on is very slow.
plunging slowly
Thanks for a new oxymoron
It’s like highspeed trainwreck in slow motion.
I wonder if it’s just instances going down for a while, I know the one i am on goes down every now and then, and sometimes takes over a week to get back and running. I could see something like that causing the active users to fluctuate, especially if they wait a month before realizing their instance wasn’t deleted.
Hmm, might not be, because as long as someone commented/posted in that month it count as active user, so basically as long as the instance is up and someone is posting/commenting, it will count. I feels like it’s mostly barely active people stop showing up, so a slow decline is seen for this two months
Not very surprising to lose users after the big intake from June. If that were the only intake we’d ever get I would be worried but we all know that Reddit will continue to do user-hostile things. Lemmy now exists as a permanent lifeboat for those who get fed up with Reddit over time, and the next time something big happens we’ll be better prepared.
We need more “subs” like wallstreetbets, ama, LPT… I’d engage more if there were more comunities I were interested in and they regularily showed up on my feed
These will probably need to grow naturally again. We have enough techy users to carry tech-related discussions, but we probably don’t have enough users to carry niche communities yet. By gaining more users of any kind, techy or otherwise, we have better odds of gaining people with a secondary interest in those niche communities. It’ll take some time, but the Fediverse is much more permanent, and investments here will pay off theoretically forever. Even if another open platform supersedes Lemmy, it will be easy to port our community over to it.
I feel like for subs like those to pop up, the barrier to entry needs to drop really low. We lean even more technical than reddit did now, and to encourage subs like those, you kinda need a healthy population of non-technical people.
Losing users is fine as long as a steady core remains. The summer growth was explosive, so some shrinking is expected.
Also I’m sure there were a lot of accounts made on different intances before people settled into one account
Absolutely. I had like 5 or 6 accounts created in that period, some on instances I don’t even remember. Now I just have this one and my lemmynsfw for scientific research.
Is this what people are on about when they ejaculate the word “SCIENCE” all over?
Users who made multiple accounts across multiple instances to deal with constant outages are just not using their alts as much. No need to.
The amount of regular posts has gone up, too, so that means the people who are staying are more consistently interacting
Hello! I am one of these people.
Can we leave the cringe self censorship behind? Lemmy isn’t beholden to advertisers and thus has no need to be “family friendly”
but it seems more naughty that way
There’s not QUITE enough content here for my short-ass attention span, but I DO come here first and I’ve stopped all posting on the other place.
Without RIF, I don’t ever go back when mobile. I also don’t spend much time on my desktop leisurely, so I’m barely there these days.
With Jerboa, I’m here multiple times a day.
I’ve switched from jerboa to eternity and am liking it better.
Any noticable differences?
I’ve gone from 20+ hours weekly on a third party app, to 30 minutes weekly on old.reddit. it’s such a shame, because I was really enjoying the niche communities and especially the f1 subreddit.
I see a little bit while moderating there, but as soon as I open the comment sections on some posts I lose interest
A lot of the subs I used to read are now very low quality and toxic with users getting into fights and rule breaking content staying up
I DO come here first and I’ve stopped all posting on the other place.
I post here first and then cross-post on Reddit to drive more traffic here :)
Honored to have my meme reposted. Fuxk Spez
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This is how I would feel about it. Stoked someone liked it enough.
I visited old.reddit a few times in the last week, after deleting my 10+ yo account in July and ditching Reddit altogether, and it just isn’t the same anymore. The content just isn’t good like it used to be.
Lemmy has plenty of room for improvement, and often feels like it’s just an RSS feed, but I genuinely prefer it now over current Reddit.
Fuck Spez.
For anyone who still checks reddit, Rdx.overdevs.com is an a mobile-friendly way to browse. No ads and you can still view nsfw subs. You can import a list of subs you follow, but you can’t post (which to me is a feature more than a bug).
Agreed, I’m sticking with the fediverse for my social media no matter how small it gets because corporate social media is just that incredibly toxic.
Yeah, I’ve been spending more time on Discord lately, but I’m sure not going back to reddit. Tbh I’ve really disconnected from spaces where I was/would be exposed to right wing extremists and hatred of me. Instagram obviously has it’s problems, but the algorithm won’t allow me–a trans lesbian stoner–to view hateful content without a fight. If I need to see some fringe beliefs and content, I’ll dive head first into the Hexbear pool!
I get more engagement here so Reddit can suck it
We have already matured significantly since the initial rush. There will be another rush, and we’ll be in an even better state then.
