• @[email protected]
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    611 year ago

    According to my kids:

    0-30 is young.

    31-60 is middle aged.

    61-90 is old.

    Over 90 is fucking old.

    • @[email protected]
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      581 year ago

      How fucking old are your kids for them to say that? Real kids would definitely say that 25 is approaching retirement age.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 year ago

        Youngest is 17, oldest is 31. But it was the younger ones when they were around 10 - I think they were just mathematically calculating the middle third. I’m almost in their “old” category now and think that because (fit) people are aging more slowly than past generations middle age is stretching out, if you are defining it as able bodied and working. That stretches it to like 75 for some people. I don’t think over 30 is “young” though, so if there are only 3 categories it’s middle aged, and no way is 75 not old, if you are fit, healthy, and working at that age you are a fit old person.

        And who can’t rock a bikini at 30? WTF, where do you live?

        • @[email protected]
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          31 year ago

          And who can’t rock a bikini at 30? WTF, where do you live?

          Yeah, wtf are these comments saying “many people have been nursing back problems for years by their 30th birthday” lmfao. Like what world do they live in? Realistically though, they’re probably 12 and think 30 is ancient.

          • @[email protected]
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            11 year ago

            Different generation. My dads generation had 8 kids and more banned chemicals plus decades of being hit by cars and falling out of trucks.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 year ago

        Same, even when I was in Jr High I thought people about to graduate college were old and may well be middle aged compared to me.

    • Beefalo
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      161 year ago

      The whole point of calling somebody “middle-aged” is that they’re in that indeterminate space where they definitely aren’t young anymore, but they aren’t like, old, old, yet, basically they’re still able-bodied enough to hold down a job.

      Not one. Not the other. Somewhere in the middle. Middle-aged.

      30 isn’t so old, but it depends hard on the person in question, some are still in great shape, but many 30-year-olds have been nursing a back problem and/or jacked knees for years by the time the birthday comes, they sure as hell don’t feel young. Some 30s haven’t had kids yet, some of them have kids in middle school. So that averages out, and we onboard you to this shitty party at 30. If you can still rock the swimwear at 30, do it, and don’t take it for granted.

      For the record, we don’t care what children think old is. Children are insane.

    • @[email protected]
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      251 year ago

      This. No one realizes that your probably not gonna make it to 100 in perfect health. If your body doesn’t go, it will be your mind. Either way, it does not sound appealing.

      If nothing else, the arthritis has gotten so bad, you wanna off yourself anyways.

      Hard pass.

      • @[email protected]
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        141 year ago

        I’m 37 and already broken.

        My back is killing me, the sciatica makes sitting down hard. My ankle is fucked from too many injuries doing shit like tough mudder because when you’re young you’re invincible. Top that off with an immune disorder and asthma and it’ll be a miracle if I make it to 50 with a good quality of life.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 year ago

          Dude. Sciatica is the worst. Every once in a while I injure myself and can barely stand for days.

          The only thing that helped was this old, Hispanic “healer man”, that massaged the nerve back into place. It’s not like woo woo healing and its not an actual massage. This man just knew anatomy really well and could feel everything out by touch alone. It took 15 mins and I was pain-free, although I had to go back a few times until it set. Hiking helped the muscles get strong enough to keep it in place.

          I’ve gone to several other people that say they do similar things, including ones near the boarder, but they’ve never been able to fix it. Western Doctors were completely useless, they couldn’t even diagnose me properly. The next closest thing would probably be a sports massage therapist.

          This man was apparently known far and wide, with people comming from other states to see him. Any one in my local hispanic community i mentioned it to, was familiar with him.

          Sadly, he was old and stopped working his magic around the time covid started, due to him and his wife’s, unrelated, ailing health. I’ve been searching for someone else ever since. I’m sure there are others like him, there are definitely imitations. I have to assume someone else has excelled at this practice, and this old man wasnt just a one off.

          If you have any contacts in the hispanic community, that may know of someone like him, I’d say it’s definitely worth a shot to at least ask around.

      • Ser Salty
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        41 year ago

        I don’t wanna get to the point where it seems miserable just to, like, walk or something. I don’t mind taking heart medication, walking with a cane, stuff like that, but I don’t wanna live in near constant agony just trying to get through the day.

  • Obinice
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    361 year ago

    I’ve never heard anybody suggest that 50 is middle aged, usually it’s traditionally been 30, or nowadays with life expectancies being higher, 36 is spot on.

    Anyway, we’re all going to work until we’re dead, to keep the rich ruling class fed. There’s no escape.

  • monk
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    231 year ago

    Wait, your retirement age is less than the average lifespan?

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        Mean Average is a dumb way to track lifespan as many people (still) die in childhood.

        Median is much more representative.

        • monk
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          11 year ago

          Good luck finding a median life expectancy for my country.

  • @[email protected]
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    221 year ago

    I guess the point is you’re middle aged in regards to your contribution to society. First 15-20 years of your life you pretty much just “take”, while the following 50ish you are expected to chip in. In those terms, 50 sounds about right as being referred to as “middle aged”.

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      361 year ago

      Something doesn’t seem right about that.

      You’re supposed to work 40+ years to pay off a 20 year debt to society? That doesn’t seem fair.

      Also you didn’t chose to be born, I don’t think you owe anyone anything for having to grow to reach an age where you have agency over yourself.

      • @[email protected]
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        71 year ago

        a 20 year debt to society

        It could actually be way more than that when you consider retirement (in much of the western world at least). You also can’t really “have agency over yourself” in the sense you mean without making use of what society puts at everyone else’s disposal (roads/internet/currency/etc), and freeloading comes with all sorts of drawbacks because society is shaped in a way that doesn’t reward it for obvious reasons.

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        -11 year ago

        It’s not a debt to society. You have to “chip in” to take care of yourself and what you consume & throw away.

        You’re free to go live in the backwoods, build a rudimentary cabin, and hunt or fish to survive. That might be harder work than what you’ve got now though.

        • @Karnickel
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          11 year ago

          That’s illegal in a lot of places

          • @[email protected]
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            01 year ago

            There’s lots of wide open spaces and cheap land in the American West. They’re just remote and devoid of many modern conveniences. Source - I live in the Rocky Mountains.

            What I hear is somebody bitching about having to work and pay taxes and having not asked to be born, who still demands access to all the modern conveniences that work and taxes pay for.

            That’s top tier tone deaf whining.

  • @[email protected]
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    221 year ago

    Uhm, retirement was invented for the elderly who can’t really work on the fields/processing plants anymore. Work changed and people got older since then.

    • @[email protected]
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      121 year ago

      Most people still work manual labor jobs. Cognitive ability also declines with age. Age discrimination during hiring/recruiting is fairly common (witnessed it at nearly every job I’ve ever had, even though it’s illegal, and I’ve had a lot of jobs). There aren’t enough “bullshit jobs” like Walmart greeter for everybody. Aging population can be solved by permissible immigration (which are comparably younger populations), but there are too many racists and politicians worried about demographic shifts.

      • @[email protected]
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        71 year ago

        I took a year off work recently to detox and had a zero cortisol policy. Lines on my face faded, hair looks great and stopped thinning, came back nicely, lost weight, almost have a six pack for the first time in my life approaching 40. People know how stressful work is but most don’t understand what it’s like to truly live for yourself stress free. I’m super fortunate and grateful for having the opportunity to do that and highly recommend.

        The hardest part about going back to work was reentering that disgusting American corporate culture of toxic optimism. I’m fine with a lot of work and my stress tolerance/management is much better now. But that culture of toxic optimism is hard to handle.

        • @[email protected]
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          41 year ago

          Yeah I had a genius boss who was an outrageous overworker. Like he didn’t always work on his job but when not he was learning to play guitar, learning languages, always “on”, didn’t sleep much and got more done than most any two regular people could do. Like at work he did the work of 3 people at least. It broke his marriage, his life but he cannot slow down. I actually like him as a person but it’s terrifying.

          On every review I got points from him for “work-life management”, limiting work so that I could do life, be with my kids, SLEEP, exercise, take all my “use it or lose it” PTO, etc. I made myself available for one late day a week and one weekend a month, am not inflexible but not so hyperfocused on work and for some reason he could see this as a good quality in an employee - others in the department tried to meet his insane standards and would burn out. By keeping my boundaries I can be creative, see solutions, not get so deep in that I lose the objectivity.

          You are not a better worker by killing yourself giving too much to work. Not even by the standards of a boss who is killing himself with overwork. Keep your objectivity. Rest, work, exercise, play, rest. Not work hard play hard, no.

          • @[email protected]
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            51 year ago

            Those people are mentally ill. Living in a permanent state of mania or hypomania isn’t normal or healthy. But because they are hyperfocused and sleep only a few hours a night they manage to get themselves into leadership positions and set the tone for literally everyone else. It’s fucked up.

            Setting boundaries is crucial for dealing with these people. I’m so glad my resume and circumstances are strong enough to be able to stand up for myself.

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      You can retire at any age you want lol. Most people didn’t live in their means nor did they save for retirement starting at 18/22. This was possible 30 years ago. These days? Not so much.

      It doesn’t mean you can’t leverage it way better than most though. Starting a Roth IRA saves more money than even paying off your house loan in half the time. That’s saving an extra $70,000 for most. Putting into retirement early triples that lol.

      Compound interest via stock/bonds is a bullshit money generating hack made up by rich people to get richer though. The poors literally get their dregs from riding on their coattails then acting like they invested well. Nobody wants to admit that you should be able to retire indefinitely by what amounts to hoarding above a certain dollar threshold though lol.

      • @[email protected]
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        21 year ago

        Is it really just a simple matter of living within your means when you are constantly bombarded with the idea that you are inferior for not having that shiny new thing and banks are constantly trying to push you into predatory debt schemes like credit cards?

        At that point, I don’t blame people for not having a retirement fund. This is a systemic problem, not an individual failure and we should look at changing those systemic failures rather than pointing the finger at people and saying, “you fell for our bullshit and now you are poor. Shame on you!”

  • SeaJ
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    211 year ago

    The average life expectancy of men in the US is 73 (it was 74 pre-COVID).

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    I like the energy, but this is still a dumb take, even if it’s common. Where TF did the idea that middle= midpoint come from? So does “middle age” last just an instant?

    We have young, and elderly, so what do we call the span in the middle when you’re neither of those?

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    131 year ago

    The problem is that we are living longer and healthier than even before and the trend is to keep on rising.

    What the real problem is that allowing a person to actually live is troublesome for the current system in place, as in if you do not produce, you are not valuable.

    But you are.

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    111 year ago

    The worst part about this is that it reminds me that I’m close to having lived the statistical half of my life, damn.