Don’t threaten me with a good time!
Always such a joy when we get to bust that one out :)
Its like, "Wait, you’re threatening me with 1) having my cake and 2) getting to eat it too?
Where do I sign?!
Yeah! The GOP candidates should all show some solidarity and remove themselves from the electoral process completely! Stick it to the libs!
Vivek Ramaswamy’s campaign also stopped all TV ad spending with less than a month to go before Iowa and New Hampshire. So yeah, this is the only way he can get any attention right now before he drops out in February and tries to become a right wing media personality.
Genuine question: what do righty folks actually think of him? Like its painful to watch him act like he’s part of the gang…
Anecdotal, but my grandma who is very racist and conservative was confused why he was running because only natural born citizens can be president. Needless to say she was disappointed when I told her that he was born in Cincinnati.
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After Herman Cain died from COVID he caught at a Trump rally, the GOP never mentioned him again.
He ceased to be a useful black man, so he ceased to exist at all.
They don’t think, that’s the problem isn’t it?
K but all pithyness aside, how do they actually feel about him? It must be super weird to agree with someone who’s parroting your nonsense but also that person’s very existence and social worth is an object of your hatred
I have two cousins who are half-Thai (their mother was a Thai woman brought to America by my uncle) who are virulent anti-immigrant white supremacists. It’s especially weird because not only have they been the frequent victims of anti-asian discrimination, they also happen to look central american and have been the frequent victims of discrimination against that as well. I think the only thing that explains it is that they are absolutely dirt stupid.
I suspect that while most conservatives would prefer someone more ‘close to home’, there’s two things that may appeal:
- They may reference him to stave off claims of racism. “See? I woulda voted for him if Trump weren’t running, you can’t call me racist!”
- He says the right things, and he’s independently wealthy, which gives him that ‘outsider’ status that they also bestow upon Trump. With those two things, he might be deemed ‘one of the good ones’.
Ultimately, few will opt for him over Trump, and their allegiance to him would likely be far more fickle, as they cannot identify with him as much.
What I found most plausible was the notion that he was running to soften Trump’s image or something. Like he seemed even more over the top than even Trump and I don’t know how any serious person pulls that off unless there’s another orthogonal angle
Louisiana rednecks loved themselves some Bobby Jindal (former Republican governor of LA of subcontinental extraction). It doesn’t really surprise me when racists are illogical about their racism - since racism is a fundamentally illogical thing in the first place.
I think people saw promise, he is clearly personally smart, but he has proven himself not up to the job at the debates. I think he’ll get the Buttigieg treatment if Trump wins, set him up with some resume fodder and hope he runs in 12 years or something.
He comes across as beyond desperate. All of them do because they have very few facts on their side on most issues, I find. It would be torture to me to have to argue such absurd cases, they are basically paid actors.
This guys political moves are based on this meme.
He knows he’s not winning. This is either to try and be Trumps VP, or is to promote his books and podcast (or both).
This makes no sense in the context. Being on the me ballot doesn’t win him anything, and might anger the maga base, or even trump himself, so it would hurt him. It’s a no brainer from a political perspective to say he wouldnt go on the ballot.
He will get the same number of votes either way.
Beta cuck is running for VP
SAD!
I want to upvote you, but goddamn do I hate that “cuck” word so much!
Even if being used in a mocking sense? lmao
That’s why I said that I wanted to upvote, because I know it’s mocking.
But the extreme right used that word so much and for so long that, ugh… it’s so icky to read.
Just remember its all projection/confession. Everything they say and do is
Fascist piece of shit is race traitor, too dumb to realize he doesn’t fit in with the GOP’s plans for America’s future.
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John Wayne Ramaswamy
And pass up the alliteration of Ronald Reagan Ramaswamy?
Wasn’t Trump also Drumpf or some shit before?
not exactly, there was an ancestor who may have been Trump or Drumpft.
From his grandfather’s wikipedia entry:
Trump’s earliest known male ancestor is Johann Philipp Drumpft or Trump (1667–1707, parents or place of birth not recorded), who married Juliana Maria Rodenroth.
Ngl I thought drumpf was created from that green text about a late night show host saying Donald Trump over and over while the crowd cheers and the hosts way of saying Donald Trump devolves into an almost unintelligible “DOOOONNNNAAAALLLL DDDDDRRRRUUUMMMPPPPFFFF”
Demographic groups that have increased amongst Republican voters over the last 3 elections include hispanic protestants, hispanic catholics, and black protestants.
Yeah, a lot of people are brainwashed by corporate propaganda, voting against their own interests 'cause they got fooled.
Yeah, a lot of people are brainwashed by corporate religious propaganda, voting against their own interests 'cause they got fooled.
FTFY
Until the late 50s Democrats were the safe segregation vote, Brown v Brown in 54 got them some extreme segregationist populists even while the party overall was accommodating the demographic shifts that came with industrialization in the cities. Republicans successfully courted younger voters, and as deindustrialization hit the rural areas and created an economic glut, failure to invest in stimulus for these areas through successive administrations created a population angry at government for legitimate reasons ready to be courted by appealing and directing their base anxieties towards an internal “other.”
It’s only been since the 90s that the parties reached the internal consensus they’re known for now. When Biden speaks about compromising and working “across the aisle” he’s often referencing by name segregationist Democrats. The parties as single ideological units who consent to the same economic arrangement is very recent and creating this post-political stagnation where people have no political agency and are merely reacting to politics happening along ideological lines.
I think you’re way late re: internal consensus. FDR set the model for democrats. It was apparent thereafter in every presidential election. Kennedy and Nixon, for example. The Dixiecrats dissolved in 1948.
There were still staunch Democrat segregationsts well into the early 70s, famously Wallace and Maddox. Wallace was Alabama governor until '68 and Maddox Georgia governor until '71.
Yeah, I suppose. Hard to believe him and RFK were in the same party. I guess I haven’t thought much about what that means, if anything. At any rate, the path to change the DNC is from within, as Bernie did.
Look into redline mortgage laws and issues around housing developments in northern cities from the 60s to 90s. This was how racial division was perpetuated by northern white middle class liberals who became the consistent base for Democrats into the present day. Issues around property relations and the notion of the “neighborhood” which developers and mortgage brokers used to ensure blacks were segregated to low income areas. Even though a lot has been done to address these issues they’re still very relevant to the generational wealth and have impacted a lot of issues around racism and the sort of programs the government has introduced to address it.
Some pop culture depictions of this… the HBO series “Show Me A Hero” with Oscar Isaac playing Yonkers mayor Nick Wasicsko, as his white middle class constituents fought against public housing developments. The Randy Newman song Rednecks is an infamous and shocking satire of the same issue written from the perspective of a (very) openly racist southerner.
Also can’t recommend Barbara and Karen Fields’ book “Racecraft” enough. Completely dissects what race is in America and how this notion of race came to be. A lot of well read people on the subject have praised it for completely changing their perspective on race. It’s also completely readable and doesn’t talk down to the reader or any of that bs (cough D’Angelo cough).
Doesn’t make them any less of traitors if there are more of them. Even the white people who vote Trump are acting against their own interests.
You gotta hand it to the guy for getting his entry in for “least menacing threat of 2023” just under the wire.
“Vivek Ramaswamy Vows Not to Be on Any Ballots if Not Invited to Next Debate.”
Dude, if you want to be Trump’s VP pick, just ask.
Trump will be like “Ok, but you gotta change your name to Vince Ramaswamadingdong. I can’t pronounce the other one.”
Win-win?
Not really. He would actually have to have a universe out there in the multiverse where he does win for this to be a factor. He doesn’t win even a 1,000th of any single city (even if you counted country wide total as votes in one city) in this universe though.
Cool. Anyway…
Is that supposed to be a consequence people take seriously?
Tell me you want to lose an election without telling me. Clearly you’re only in it to make the number of people trump beat higher. Actively does not want to win.
Does he think this will convince anyone to change their decision?
