• @[email protected]
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    41 year ago

    It matters because the Gun Violence Archive and the uncritical mass media are inflating the statistic to make people scared so they can push an agenda

    Bullshit. You’re attacking it because it’s counter to your agenda.

    Republicans, right-wing media, the gun lobby and the pro-gun community routinely fearmonger as a way to boost their own profits and power.

    Not only do you not care when they do it, you’ve enthusiastically put yourself and your own family in more danger because of it.

    You’re hopelessly compromised and your thoughts about how gun violence statistics are about as trustworthy as a cops views on police brutality statistics.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 year ago

        My agenda is “words mean things”

        If that was actually your agenda, this wouldn’t be your position. You want to lower the statistic using semantics and as an added bonus, take away the vocabulary needed to discuss a huge percentage of gun violence.

        The difference is, in scenario #1, nobody went to the party intending to shoot anyone. You can’t say the same for scenario #2.

        5 people were shot. Intentional vs accidental, premeditated vs impulse, none of that changes the fact that 5 people were shot and the event was a mass shooting.

        Even in your own example that you made as contrived as you needed, 3 innocent people were still shot and swept under the rug.

        The organizations you’re rallying against are completely open about their definitions, making them far more honest than you’re being.

        I’m sorry if that hurts your guns feelings.

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            21 year ago

            You know what would be a pretty interesting way to look at this would be?

            Lets take every modern nation in the world (we can bicker about what “modern” means later), and lets create a database similar to the one you’re taking issue with for each of those nations.

            We can be just as uncharitable (or is it charitable?) in our definition of “mass shooting”… The exact issue you’re having here right? You think that these statistics unfairly show the US in a negative light.

            Well how about we take a look, by that same criteria, how many “mass shootings” these other nations have. Hell, we can even do it per-capita.

            How do you think that would look?

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                21 year ago

                The second amendment isn’t some magic incantation, Jesus Christ.

                Brain rotted.

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                    1 year ago

                    The Constitution has always meant to be a living document.

                    It should evolve as reality changes for us, but people in this country are too brain-rotted and ammosexual to fix it. Wonder how that happened…