Just putting this up to contrast with this post and because Eli Valley is a great political cartoonist.

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      Yes, it does. It means you’re willing to put your name to what he does in office.

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          No one had to tell me it, it is self-evident. He’s the representative you choose and he’s going to absolutely 100% take your vote for him as vindication that supporting genocide is politically viable, which means Dems will keep fielding zionists and taking AIPAC money.

          That’s the consequences of your choice. You need to accept that, not try to pretend you still get to have sone kind of moral high ground.

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            Well, I don’t support either one of them but it’s very clear that Trump is the worse of the two options in the two party system. I did not choose him. I really think it’s moronic for randos on the internet to try to tell me what I support. It’s not a moral issue for me, it’s a logical one.

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              Voting for Biden is supporting him, yes. Sitting here arguing that people should vote for him is supporting him. You are a Biden supporter.

              Tell me, logically, what would convince democrats to stop supporting genocide?

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                Again, voting for Biden is not supporting him. I’ll acknowledge that he is one of two shitty options, but my brain works well enough to recognize that in a two party system, we’re not going to have more than two options. That’s just math.

                My memory works well enough to remember the Trump regime and its lasting impacts on our country. Not voting for Biden is an endorsement for further rollbacks to bodily autonomy, a greater division in wealth, the privatization of public services, religious indoctrination in schools, AND the continued genocide of Palestinians.

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                  There are three options, not two.

                  It honestly still sounds like cope to me. You’re voting for Biden and the Biden agenda, but somehow think that declaring that you are not supporting him absolves you of enabling him. Take ownership of your actions.

                  You’re not being honest with yourself because you like to believe you’re a moral person, but it turns out you are willing to cache in your morals out of fear. Which I guess tracks, cowardice and will lead to cowardly actions.

                  Tell yourself what you need to in order to sleep at night, but your unwillingness to truly resist is why the country continues on the track it has been on, why Democrats keep following the GOP to the right.

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                    The third option being doing nothing at all? Is that the third option or are you going to inform me of a new way to do electoral math?

                    I am voting for Biden as a vote against Trump. I do not support Biden; I abhor Trump. I am not really sure why this is difficult to process for you.

                    You keep mentioning morals after I already told you that my decision is not one based in morals; it’s based in logic. Keep schilling for the right and you too will no longer need to worry about voting at all.

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        A person who doesn’t vote is more to blame than a person who votes for the less insane candidate. That’s logic 101.

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          Who said anything about not voting? People should vote in every election they can.

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        That’s why I only ever write in my own name. It’s the only way to be sure my vote perfectly aligns with my morals.