One of the admins at lemmy.blahaj.zone asked us to purge a community and all of its users because they thought it was full of child sexual abuse material, aka CSAM, fka kiddy porn. We assured them that we had checked this comm thoroughly and we were satisfied that all of the models on it were of age.

The admin then demanded we purge the comm because they mistook it for CSAM, and claimed that the entire point of the community was to make people think it was CSAM. We vehemently disagreed that that was in fact the point of the community, but they decided to defederate from us anyway. That is of course their choice, but we will not purge our communities or users because someone else makes a mistake of fact, and then lays the responsibility for their mistake at our feet.

If someone made a community intended to fool people into thinking it was kiddy porn, that would be a real problem. If someone of age goes online and pretends – not roleplays, but pretends with intent to deceive – to be a child and makes porn, that is a real problem. Nobody here is doing that.

One of the reasons we run our instance the way that we do is that we want it to be inclusive. We don’t body shame, and we believe that all adults have a right to sexual expression. That means no adult on our instance is too thin, fat, bald, masculine, old, young, cis, gay, etc., to be sexy, and that includes adults that look younger than some people think they should. Everyone has a right to lust and to be lusted after. There’s no way to draw a line that says “you can’t like adult people that look like X” without crossing a line that we will not cross.

EDIT: OK, closing this post to new comments. Everything that needs saying has been said. Link to my convo with the blahaj admin here.

  • @paradox
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    1261 year ago

    Discourse like this sucks. Of course they are free to defederate but presenting this server as a place that allows abusive material is a gross misrepresentation.

    I’m assuming the post in question was the one of imcherryblossom. Two seconds of Googling shows that they are a OnlyFans/Fansly model and proves they are above age, and she pretty clearly looks it too imo.

    Equating that post with essentially abuse doesn’t sit right with me. Especially when this server has done a good job imo of banning even borderline content while mod tools improve.

    • pastel mars
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      451 year ago

      like, damn, let petite people exist and be sexy ;-;

      kudos to the admins/mods here as they’ve been absolutely fantastic when I have issues

  • Anais Rim
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    1101 year ago

    @MikeyMongol

    After reading your post over at lemmynsfw, it’s pretty clear they were looking for a rationale to defederate and would have done that no matter what you did to prevent it.

    You made the right choice if with an unfortunate outcome.

    • Mikey Mongol OPMA
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      641 year ago

      I don’t know if that’s true. I mean, maybe? Or maybe they just don’t want to see certain things and if so, that’s their prerogative. Some people may call this a platitude, but I truly think that’s the beauty of the Fediverse – diverse views, diverse approaches, diverse comfort levels.

        • KairuByte
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          181 year ago

          FYI, when you’re replying to someone you don’t need to @ them. You only need to when you’re not directly replying to them.

          • Anais Rim
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            231 year ago

            @KairuByte

            I just hit reply. Didn’t @ the user manually at all. But I’m coming from Mastodon and using the web interface. Seems like many are commenting from lemmynsfw? That should work. Maybe?

            • KairuByte
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              251 year ago

              Oh, that’s odd. Wonder if that’s just an odd quirk of Mastadon interacting with lemmy. On this end it looks like you’re manually typing out the users name on its own line.

  • pastel mars
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    891 year ago

    you’d think a trans instance would understand that small bodies/tits don’t mean child porn

    should they ban us trans girls with smaller goods because we’re just starting on HRT or aren’t at all???

    ???

    • Mikey Mongol OPMA
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      1101 year ago

      I’ll take “discussions I won’t get into with a transwoman unless I know her incredibly well and probably not even then” for $1000, Alex.

    • @Bendavisunlv6
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      231 year ago

      I really don’t see how being a trans community qualifies one to judge adult content. I think their objection, incorrect as it was, was based on overall aesthetics and framing, not just cup size. Apparently pearl-clutching is universal.

  • @booba
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    8 months ago

    Removed by mod

  • Mikey Mongol OPMA
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    1 year ago

    As requested, the correspondence between me and the blahaj admin, posted with her permission. It started with this message (her* original message is on the bottom, my reply is on top):

    • I had used “they” for Ada earlier, which was mistaken. My apologies.