Here is the key sentence in the article.
…an acceleration in the long-term decline of so-called domestic-premium brands, which include Bud Light and rivals Miller Light and Coors Light…
So, are people drinking less beer or are they drinking less piss beer? Could it be that people are having two Hazy Imperial IPA’s with 8+ ABV instead of a six pack of Coors Light? I am taking this headline with a grain of salt.
EDIT: I found my glasses.
Who the hell thinks those three are premium?
People who drink keystone, busch, and natty
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You ever had Milwaukees Best?
I don’t even like alcohol. I still know that those are piss beers.
Hey now, those Clydesdale horses worked hard to convert water into
pissBudweiser.
Article has a vague accusation that soda-based drinks are to blame without covering any of the other possibilities here
I’m more of a once a week Porter, Ale and Hard Cider drinker, but it’s still a Microbrew.
Grain a salt is right: People just don’t like the taste of that crap anymore, not with so many options on the market now.
Coors/Bud/MGD/Corona? I haven’t had one in years.
I’m sure the weed legalizing has had an impact as well. I have completely stopped drinking in favor of weed. Saves my liver and no hangover.
Saves the brain, too. Not saying weed is exceptional, but alcohol fucks the brain up.
I just don’t do either anymore. Feels really good
Just water, thanks, homie
You mean like, from the toilet?
It’s what bodies crave.
THC in weed hurts short term memory and can cause paranoia. I just stick with CBD.
CBD isn’t psychoactive so it’s not gonna be the same for most people, but good on you! Honestly probably just drinking water is really the way to go for health. There is probably an argument for psychoactive substances relieving stress (which is a potent detriment to health) but there are also healthier ways to do that
I don’t remember hearing that before. Must be a conspiracy man
It’s true. Same as weed can make you psychotic.
However, what they don’t usually tell you if they you’d had to have the psychosis latent, but the weed triggers it. Just as a car crash could, a loved one dying, or even just getting frightened by a loud sound. Hey, even getting drunk can cause it - alcohol also causes psychosis while being intoxicated. Source: my sister who stopped drinking around 40, who realized that it fucked her up. I could tell when she’d have over single beer.
If you’re ever unsure if you have psychosis latent, be careful!
Woosh
But thanks
Sorry, I’m stoned. Noticed your second sentence just now 🤣
No worries friend, it’s a good way to be.
What a wholesome interchange. Just when I’m about to prep a fat bowl.
Nah I’ll stick with the THC.
Or take the middle ground and get type 2 weed and take it slow.
Type 2 weed?
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I think that many people are switching to hard liquor because of the state of things, as well. My town alone has seen like a 7-800% increase in alcohol sales since covid.
Can confirm, gave up crappy low cal water beer for vodka. Less carbs, better buzz.
I mean just vote against Trump in 2024 and the world’s gonna be fine…?
That solves the most immediate threat. But the seas are still rising and a major party seems reluctant to return to slowly impeding progress
Trump is just a puppet.
The POTUS is just a puppet
Now your lungs are taking the hit—do shrooms.
It might have something to do with weed being easier to get. Where I live it’s easier and faster to get weed than it is to get beer, especially on sunday.
Alcohol is expensive and makes you feel like shit. Who does that to themselves by choice when there’s alternatives?
It only makes you feel like shit if you want to get wasted irresponsibly. I like beer and outside of some college benders I’ve never felt like shit after. Stay hydrated folks.
Because beer tastes great
After you’ve acquired the taste. It was social pressure that got me to acquire it, but if that social pressure is dropping, it doesn’t surprise me that fewer pick it up because beer tastes kinda awful at first.
Acquired taste, or gaslighting your taste buds?
I don’t really care about the social pressure anymore but I do like a beer on occasion. Though it is more about the overall experience of drinking a beer rather than the taste itself, which I’d personally say is at best not bad and generally tolerable.
I respond poorly to weed and well to alcohol. Bodies are different.
I enjoy the buzz from alcohol and I rarely drink enough to make me feel like shit. While I’m generally a social person, I also enjoy that it is a social lubricant, while I find other highs to not be nearly as social, and often even anti social.
Yup. I’m smoking on new years. Not drinking.
Where do you live?
This is part of why alcohol companies spend insane amounts of cash towards anti legalization efforts
The DEA, or Distiller’s Enforcement Apparatus, is an army of masked thugs licensed to rob, defame, kidnap, or kill those suspected of preferring other drugs over alcohol.
beer shipments
That’s the problem. A lot of people are living in and around cities now. We buy beer at the brewery. Do these figures include 1st party sells? Distributors have always been a necessary evil and many states have laws saying you must go through a distributor for selling elsewhere, but many breweries are just doing taprooms now to not have to deal with that. I’d like to see those stats if they exist.
I do understand that many people are buying seltzers now, myself included.
It also doesn’t help that the craft beer scene turned into a competition to push the most over the top bitter IPAs possible. A lot of the appeal of craft beer went away for me when 3/4 of the taps became unremarkable IPAs. A good IPA is wonderful, but the vast majority of what you run into isn’t that.
It’s only marginally more interesting than when the landscape was dominated by lagers.
Hops are really awesome when used correctly, but many breweries just toss in hops to cover up bad bases. I’m lucky to have a few breweries around me that make really goods stouts and sours.
At least around me that has improved. Ten years ago it was just a dick-measuring contest about who could make the bitterest beer. Once you hit 90+ IBUs you’re not even pretending to make something good.
Since then, craft breweries here have course corrected. Most of them here are focusing on making a well- balanced IPA as their flagship, then experimenting with sours, stouts and saisons.
A brewery near me is owned by a guy from India, and has been very creative with spices reminiscent of different foods from that region, that I just haven’t seen anywhere else! Maybe it’s a sour or has tamarind or a juicy IOA with different fruit notes, or a mango lassi dessert beer, etc
That sounds awesome! Does he only sell within the confines of Michigan? I’m in Chicago myself, that sounds like an amazing brewery y’all have there
Sorry if implied Michigan …. Massachusetts
No worries dude, that could’ve been my bad for all I know
As a lover of pale ales and browns, has been a tough few years. I used to love IPAs but the flavor is mostly played out and predictable for me at this point
Oh god I love those sorry, it’s probably my fault. A regular old bitter IPA or with citra is perfect for me, and lately everywhere I go has like 10 beers I want. It’s amazing and I’m very happy.
No beer for me, just drugs please.
I just want weed. I didn’t even think of buying alcohol for new years, but I did purchase a screen for my pipe.
You son of a bitch, I’m in.
Stop making so many mediocre IPAs. Other styles do exist.
Had the same thought to myself at the Sprouts today. All I wanted was a stout. Not even a Guinness anywhere, but an entire wall of IPA’s and then the rest were hard seltzers.
I also wonder how liquor sales are as well.
My wife and I are obviously only one couple, so this is confirmation bias, but alcohol in general just isn’t as appealing anymore. With all this general stress we’ve been going through (struggling with inflation, insane work hours, insane work conditions) alcohol is causing more migraines, sucky morning-after-drinking symptoms, high calories, expensive prices, there’s just no good reason to drink as much as we used to. And it’s not like we drank that much earlier in our lives as well.
Tie this all together with marijuana availability which has none of these cons except for high taxes, then alcohol doesn’t sound as appealing anymore.
I also wonder how liquor sales are as well.
Up a staggering amount. The US is in the throes of an alcohol-abuse epidemic.
If that’s the case, keep on keeping on alcohol drinkers. 🫡
As long as nobody is drunk driving, being a public nuisance, or hurting people in any way then I won’t tell people how to live their lives.
Although, I feel the same way about any drug really. There’s enjoying yourself and then there’s hurting yourself.
Because it’s expensive, calorie intensive and takes longer to drink than something like whiskey or vodka.
If I’m thirsty, I’ll drink water. If I want to get drunk, I’ll drink whiskey. Beer is the middle ground that just isn’t worth it anymore.
There are some that taste good. But it’s only every once in awhile for me.
Best I can understand, beer is more of a social drink than anything. Slow enough to get most people wasted that they can easily drink for the 2-4 hours they’re at a party or event for without getting too badly drunk
Meanwhile my drinking has hit personal record highs this year. Yay depression.
18 days sober today for me! You can do it friend.
I peaked during the pandemic and was also depressed. It’s a difficult cycle to break but I got out of it. If you want to chat about it let me know.
Even if you don’t stop completely, and instead only drink socially as opposed to alone I think you’ll feel a lot better. I know I did! Plus, the feeling of waking up every day 100% sober with no hangover is better than all the drunken nights. Whatever you choose, good luck…
Please, be careful with that, alcohol usually makes depression worse
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I don’t know you, but I understand how tough depression is. Just remember when things get bad that this stranger on the internet loves you. I want to see you happy and I’m sure you’ll make it there :)
I think beer is gross, personally, so this isn’t a post about me but reading the comments it is interesting to see beer drinkers here decide against it due to cost and wanting other choices. I have news for you guys there are cocktails and other great alcohols that cost as much as your 7 to 10 dollar beer and they taste fucking great.
Well, I personally get intoxicated a bit even by sweets, and also feel worse from sugar. While beer (IPA-s mostly) makes me feel better and not that much drunk.
Ah, and that “good alcohol” you’re talking about makes me nervous, shaky, paranoid and it’s as if my hangover always started when others are only becoming drunk.
Metabolism can be different from person to person.
sweet drinks are fine to have 1 or 2 of, but the sugar content will fuck your stomach up badly. learned that the hard way
You say “gross”, now that’s an intriguing choice of vocab…because it’s just a watery liquid, it doesn’t have a texture like snot or slime or similar typically “gross” things. I’m not saying you’re wrong in your dislike of it, the taste, smell, etc. but could you elaborate what you think is “gross” about it?
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Beer can be different. Though TBF I only drink two kinds of beer - one is a really flavorful craft IPA which I’m unaware of being exported from Russia, another is the cheap alcohol-free thing my dad let me taste when I was 6 or 7, which gives memories and isn’t too bad.
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Beer is like soup. There’s tons of different ways to make it. There are sweet (like candy sweet, not just soda sweet) beers if you want them. The issue is you have to find them. There was a big movement towards sour beers for a while, which turned into a race for the sweetest beer and ended horribly in my opinion, but those are more rare than during that period now. There’s also beers that taste like pickles, wine, or just about whatever else you could want. There really isn’t a “beer” flavor, though there is a lager or pilsner flavor which is the typical cheap beer.
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Draft beer just means it’s coming from a keg, not a style difference. You may not find beer you like, but if you’ve only tried the typical beer you get at a bar or whatever then yeah, it won’t be good. I’d say go to a brewery and ask for help. The bartenders will be happy to help and they’ll let you taste whatever you want before ordering. You can also go to a taphouse or something, but they won’t be as helpful probably and you also probably can’t get tastes.
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I’m confused by this, how is soda cheaper than water? In the us, water comes out of my faucet ridiculously cheaply, and virtually every restaurant will give you water for free while charge for soda. At least with beer you get a buzz, why anyone would ever choose soda is beyond me. Well, I get it, it’s sweet. But it’s really just absolutely empty calories.
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Plus I can’t upgrade the place I live in to resolve that ugh.
If we are talking about living in a place where the water is literally nonpotable, maybe you’re correct. But if it’s simply that you don’t like the taste then this isn’t about it being more expensive. Additionally, if this is the case, you can just buy a filter, which would produce way better tasting water at a fraction of the cost of soda.
My point about beer giving a buzz is that it actually provides something that water does not. If you are looking for caffeine from a soda, there are way better ways of getting it without getting all those empty calories as well. If you just need to hydrate, water is pretty universally the best choice (when it comes to vs soda, although maybe a tiny bit of soda would be better than just water if you are seriously deplenished from an intense workout. . .although so is a bit of beer).
I mean, you do you, I was just curious as to how in the world soda was cheaper than water. I’m not even sure it’s cheaper if you just buy it bottled as well. I’m curious as to your math. I just did a quick check on walmart, and the water is less than a cent per ounce, while the cheapest coke I saw was about 2.9 cents per ounce. . and that required having a 2 liter bottle, which would require using it rather quickly.
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No joke, it’s all the seltzer marketing that gets people to spend way more on way less alcohol.
It was successful as fuck. Just look at all the streamers shilling it.
How is it spending way more on way less alcohol? In my area a 12 pack of Trulys is comparable to a 12 pack of Corona and they have roughly the same alcohol content
A 8 pack of seltzer here is $20 and 12 pack of beer $15.
8 pack of seltzer… $20
Christ. 12 packs of seltzer here are like $16, beer not much cheaper maybe $14
I should clarify. That’s the vodka seltzer not the malt stuff.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think hard Seltzer is technically classified as beer?
It says “BEER” on the back of White Claw cans.
Can you clarify your point?
If I was making hard seltzer at scale, I’d consider two options:
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Cut some Everclear 97% and some flavorant into water, and throw 30psi of CO2 on for it a few days (expensive)
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Ferment some dextrose, rack it off the yeast cake, add some flavorant, and throw 30psi of CO2 on it for a few days (cheap)
My hombrew club hated me.
What you are doing probally does not sound as romantic as what they are doing. 🤣
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Is this trend only the US? Would be interesting to see how it is in other countries and how it correlates to economic and social indcators
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I find it hard to believe that the idiot Republicans who boycotted Bud Light stopped drinking beer entirely.