just wondering if anyone else is seeing this, and possibly a bug related to the upgrade?

I just noticed that in the communities that I started, mod team memberships got reordered randomly and I no longer have the option to add/appoint new mods. Examples: [email protected] , [[email protected]

Update: hmm, even in this mod coordination, the membership is all changed, and @[email protected] is no longer top moderator…

More weirdness update Monday: at !DangleAndJingle, I just added @[email protected] as mod. But in the sidebar, s/he is listed out of order and not reflective of modlog transactions…

  • b9999998OPM
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    [email protected] is unaffected and totally fine, which confirms what you see. You are the creator of that community so the ordering is correct.

    The issue is on the communities I created such as [email protected], [email protected] - due to the bug we are discussing, you’ve become the top moderator… (what we don’t know is why it happened). And it’s not simply just a display UI issue.
    BTW, I don’t really mind that you’ve become top mod on my various communities, it’s more that this type of random re-orderings is a very serious thing IMO - if one can’t trust consistency and integrity of how moderators lists are handled, then the platform in my eyes become not trustworthy at all…

    • @wankbankM
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      this type of random re-orderings is a very serious thing IMO

      Yeah, I understood your position completely, and it’s definitely a P1 bug.

      I see myself as top mod of most of the subs I mod.

      Here’s me trying to transfer [email protected]:

      {
          "community_id": 1840,
          "person_id": 97262,
          "auth": "xxx"
      }
      
      spoiler
      {
        "community_view": {
          "community": {
            "id": 1840,
            "name": "ftvgirls",
            "title": "FTVGirls",
            "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n",
            "removed": false,
            "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636",
            "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123",
            "deleted": false,
            "nsfw": true,
            "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls",
            "local": true,
            "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg",
            "hidden": false,
            "posting_restricted_to_mods": false,
            "instance_id": 1
          },
          "subscribed": "Subscribed",
          "blocked": false,
          "counts": {
            "id": 1066,
            "community_id": 1840,
            "subscribers": 267,
            "posts": 29,
            "comments": 11,
            "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636",
            "users_active_day": 1,
            "users_active_week": 6,
            "users_active_month": 8,
            "users_active_half_year": 8,
            "hot_rank": 2
          }
        },
        "moderators": [
          {
            "community": {
              "id": 1840,
              "name": "ftvgirls",
              "title": "FTVGirls",
              "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n",
              "removed": false,
              "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636",
              "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123",
              "deleted": false,
              "nsfw": true,
              "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls",
              "local": true,
              "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg",
              "hidden": false,
              "posting_restricted_to_mods": false,
              "instance_id": 1
            },
            "moderator": {
              "id": 5290,
              "name": "wankbank",
              "avatar": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/ebf19e8b-0008-4fce-bdc8-bdef28a8649a.webp",
              "banned": false,
              "published": "2023-06-12T02:20:36.333327",
              "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/u/wankbank",
              "local": true,
              "deleted": false,
              "admin": false,
              "bot_account": false,
              "instance_id": 1
            }
          },
          {
            "community": {
              "id": 1840,
              "name": "ftvgirls",
              "title": "FTVGirls",
              "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n",
              "removed": false,
              "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636",
              "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123",
              "deleted": false,
              "nsfw": true,
              "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls",
              "local": true,
              "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg",
              "hidden": false,
              "posting_restricted_to_mods": false,
              "instance_id": 1
            },
            "moderator": {
              "id": 16088,
              "name": "nsfun",
              "banned": false,
              "published": "2023-06-12T22:01:17.596656",
              "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/u/nsfun",
              "bio": "why are you here? ",
              "local": true,
              "deleted": false,
              "admin": false,
              "bot_account": false,
              "instance_id": 1
            }
          },
          {
            "community": {
              "id": 1840,
              "name": "ftvgirls",
              "title": "FTVGirls",
              "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n",
              "removed": false,
              "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636",
              "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123",
              "deleted": false,
              "nsfw": true,
              "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls",
              "local": true,
              "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg",
              "hidden": false,
              "posting_restricted_to_mods": false,
              "instance_id": 1
            },
            "moderator": {
              "id": 18746,
              "name": "data_currator",
              "banned": false,
              "published": "2023-06-13T02:36:46.709481",
              "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/u/data_currator",
              "local": true,
              "deleted": false,
              "admin": false,
              "bot_account": false,
              "instance_id": 1
            }
          },
          {
            "community": {
              "id": 1840,
              "name": "ftvgirls",
              "title": "FTVGirls",
              "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n",
              "removed": false,
              "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636",
              "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123",
              "deleted": false,
              "nsfw": true,
              "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls",
              "local": true,
              "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg",
              "hidden": false,
              "posting_restricted_to_mods": false,
              "instance_id": 1
            },
            "moderator": {
              "id": 97262,
              "name": "b9999998",
              "banned": false,
              "published": "2023-06-18T03:15:06.002740",
              "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/u/b9999998",
              "bio": "Reddit veteran - modded over 50+ subs, including personal r/JustBecause9999998\n\nFeel free to message if I might know you...",
              "local": true,
              "deleted": false,
              "admin": false,
              "bot_account": false,
              "instance_id": 1
            }
          }
        ],
        "discussion_languages": []
      }
      

      Notice that the moderator’s user ids are ordered - I think it’s just making the earliest registered (i.e. lowest id) account the top mod… @yay

      • @wankbankM
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        Experimenting in !modcoord shows that I cannot de-mod anyone with a lower user id, but I can de-mod e.g. @[email protected] who I assume is the original owner.

        I’m guessing the intended behaviour is that you shouldn’t be able to edit a mod who’s been mod longer than you, but they’re sorting/checking the wrong thing.

        • @wankbankM
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          @[email protected] This instance appears to be ordering mods by user_id, not by date_granted_mod (or whatever).

          I’ve just tested on ds9.lemmy.ml and it’s not happening there so it might be just a here thing. I need to do paid work now, so I can’t test on any live communities to confirm that it is only here.

          • b9999998OPM
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            Great Awesome investigation! 👍😊

            This may also explain why some communities are impacted vs those that are not.