just wondering if anyone else is seeing this, and possibly a bug related to the upgrade?
I just noticed that in the communities that I started, mod team memberships got reordered randomly and I no longer have the option to add/appoint new mods. Examples: [email protected] , [[email protected]
Update: hmm, even in this mod coordination, the membership is all changed, and @[email protected] is no longer top moderator…
More weirdness update Monday: at !DangleAndJingle, I just added @[email protected] as mod. But in the sidebar, s/he is listed out of order and not reflective of modlog transactions…
What I’m seeing in !lipsthatgrip is that I appear as top mod and I do have the options for “ban from community” and “appoint as mod” (or “remove as mod” and “transfer community” for you), but they’re not in the drop-down and actually can get out of sync with it if you collapse the menu by clicking on the background:
I don’t see you moving the community back to me, but I am late to this thread.
The same is true of the two you linked, and I also see myself at the fist listed mod for them (even in a guest session).
(cc @yay)
[email protected] is unaffected and totally fine, which confirms what you see. You are the creator of that community so the ordering is correct.
The issue is on the communities I created such as [email protected], [email protected] - due to the bug we are discussing, you’ve become the top moderator… (what we don’t know is why it happened). And it’s not simply just a display UI issue.
BTW, I don’t really mind that you’ve become top mod on my various communities, it’s more that this type of random re-orderings is a very serious thing IMO - if one can’t trust consistency and integrity of how moderators lists are handled, then the platform in my eyes become not trustworthy at all…
Yeah, I understood your position completely, and it’s definitely a P1 bug.
I see myself as top mod of most of the subs I mod.
Here’s me trying to transfer [email protected]:
{ "community_id": 1840, "person_id": 97262, "auth": "xxx" }spoiler
{ "community_view": { "community": { "id": 1840, "name": "ftvgirls", "title": "FTVGirls", "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n", "removed": false, "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636", "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123", "deleted": false, "nsfw": true, "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls", "local": true, "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg", "hidden": false, "posting_restricted_to_mods": false, "instance_id": 1 }, "subscribed": "Subscribed", "blocked": false, "counts": { "id": 1066, "community_id": 1840, "subscribers": 267, "posts": 29, "comments": 11, "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636", "users_active_day": 1, "users_active_week": 6, "users_active_month": 8, "users_active_half_year": 8, "hot_rank": 2 } }, "moderators": [ { "community": { "id": 1840, "name": "ftvgirls", "title": "FTVGirls", "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n", "removed": false, "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636", "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123", "deleted": false, "nsfw": true, "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls", "local": true, "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg", "hidden": false, "posting_restricted_to_mods": false, "instance_id": 1 }, "moderator": { "id": 5290, "name": "wankbank", "avatar": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/ebf19e8b-0008-4fce-bdc8-bdef28a8649a.webp", "banned": false, "published": "2023-06-12T02:20:36.333327", "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/u/wankbank", "local": true, "deleted": false, "admin": false, "bot_account": false, "instance_id": 1 } }, { "community": { "id": 1840, "name": "ftvgirls", "title": "FTVGirls", "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n", "removed": false, "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636", "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123", "deleted": false, "nsfw": true, "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls", "local": true, "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg", "hidden": false, "posting_restricted_to_mods": false, "instance_id": 1 }, "moderator": { "id": 16088, "name": "nsfun", "banned": false, "published": "2023-06-12T22:01:17.596656", "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/u/nsfun", "bio": "why are you here? ", "local": true, "deleted": false, "admin": false, "bot_account": false, "instance_id": 1 } }, { "community": { "id": 1840, "name": "ftvgirls", "title": "FTVGirls", "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n", "removed": false, "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636", "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123", "deleted": false, "nsfw": true, "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls", "local": true, "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg", "hidden": false, "posting_restricted_to_mods": false, "instance_id": 1 }, "moderator": { "id": 18746, "name": "data_currator", "banned": false, "published": "2023-06-13T02:36:46.709481", "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/u/data_currator", "local": true, "deleted": false, "admin": false, "bot_account": false, "instance_id": 1 } }, { "community": { "id": 1840, "name": "ftvgirls", "title": "FTVGirls", "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n", "removed": false, "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636", "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123", "deleted": false, "nsfw": true, "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls", "local": true, "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg", "hidden": false, "posting_restricted_to_mods": false, "instance_id": 1 }, "moderator": { "id": 97262, "name": "b9999998", "banned": false, "published": "2023-06-18T03:15:06.002740", "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/u/b9999998", "bio": "Reddit veteran - modded over 50+ subs, including personal r/JustBecause9999998\n\nFeel free to message if I might know you...", "local": true, "deleted": false, "admin": false, "bot_account": false, "instance_id": 1 } } ], "discussion_languages": [] }Notice that the moderator’s user ids are ordered - I think it’s just making the earliest registered (i.e. lowest id) account the top mod… @yay
Experimenting in !modcoord shows that I cannot de-mod anyone with a lower user id, but I can de-mod e.g. @[email protected] who I assume is the original owner.
I’m guessing the intended behaviour is that you shouldn’t be able to edit a mod who’s been mod longer than you, but they’re sorting/checking the wrong thing.
@[email protected] This instance appears to be ordering mods by user_id, not by date_granted_mod (or whatever).
I’ve just tested on ds9.lemmy.ml and it’s not happening there so it might be just a here thing. I need to do paid work now, so I can’t test on any live communities to confirm that it is only here.
GreatAwesome investigation! 👍😊This may also explain why some communities are impacted vs those that are not.